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shadsy
@shadsy

The most depressing conversation I've ever had online was with an Aspiring Content Creator on a Discord who insisted that they had to be as loud and obnoxious as possible to compete with other YouTubers, because Content is a zero-sum game, everyone is your competitor, and you are all fighting over the same audience. So your only option is to do what they're doing.

Obviously so much of that is wrong, and it's important to have your own voice. But I think what really hit me about it was the image of somebody who has resigned their life to making videos they don't like to share with people they don't like, because that's something they think they're supposed to do. Why get into it at all??

It baffles me why so many people think this is a good life path. I knew a friend-of-a-friend who threw away their successful early career to pivot to becoming a streamer, and it completely destroyed their life, they had no income for years, their long-term partner left them, and so on.

It is extremely possible to just... not do that? What's the allure of Becoming A Creator and obligating yourself to that?


cathoderaydude
@cathoderaydude

I will preface this by saying that every single person who has ever gotten popular on YouTube or any of the other user content sites has done so through serendipity, and my level of popularity is only barely related to the choices I've made; I was in the right place at the right time doing something that people were not getting elsewhere, but it was by sheer accident and the same is true for everybody else I know of who's gotten popular.

I do not sit on any kind of high horse about my success; I'm lucky that what I'm doing is working well enough to pay my bills, but it gives me no moral high ground to criticize somebody else for having to "play the game" to get by.

but that's actually what sucks about this.

see, since I look for niche things very frequently, I am often putting interesting search terms into YouTube, and they frequently turn up results from people who are trying to play the game. And failing. Overwhelmingly often, they are failing.

It is not fun or funny to point and laugh at somebody who has been putting their heart and soul into creative work for 6 years or longer and is visibly not getting the return on investment and engagement that they hoped for. That is a sad story every time it happens, and I expected to be that person, so I just cross my fingers and hope that they get discovered like they deserve.

But what I do point and laugh at, very often, are the people who are very obviously trying to do this grind set shit and also getting no results. There are millions of accounts doing it. Hundreds or thousands of videos across years and years, 4 to 8 every single week. 20 views. 100 views. 5 views. No comments, ever.

And they're doing it all, the soyjak pointing thumbnails, the absurd reality TV bullshit, the reaction content, shock content, "tradfamily exploitation" content (you either know what I mean or you don't), they're doing it all, following every tip from every shitty redditor, every YouTube grifter, they're clearly putting a full-time job worth of effort into this, often twice over (since it is so, so, so frequently couples doing this) and they have been doing it for over 5 years and are seeing absolutely nothing for their effort. They don't even have enough followers to turn on ads.

I have no moral high ground about the way I run my channel. I have no sage advice if you want to try this; It is a meat grinder like any other gig job, like any other job really, and YouTube pays their bills on the backs of other people's largely wasted labor. But I will say this: The grind set shit is not a guarantee of success, and I am proof that acting like a fairly normal human fucking being is not a guarantee of failure. so don't buy into the bullshit, don't do the grindset shit unless you have somehow obtained proof that it will actually earn you a paycheck, because from what I've seen, it mostly just condemns you to a living hell.

(Btw: every time I've tried to apply any of that YouTuber advice, misleading clickbait names or putting myself in the thumbnail, it did absolutely nothing.)


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in reply to @shadsy's post:

Yeah, like... there are many more stable career options? I can see someone really, really wanting to do it if it's their passion, but if it's a cynical plan to make stuff you hate for people you hate and you're not actually successful yet... why not do something else?

Society teaches us that we cannot enjoy what we do for a living. Maybe we've all internalized that life is work, and work is suffering. Maybe the true meaning of "get a job that you love, and you'll never work a day in your life" is that if you love something, and get a job doing that, either you'll stop loving it, or stop wanting to work altogether.

In my case? A bit of both.

A desire for an audience and attention? Wonder also how much is like "oh I can do this for money! That's way better than a Job", then they underestimate how much work it'd take, and then it's a sunk cost that they cant just quit, in their minds.

I'll say this: the particular casual, conversational style that is more or less the norm on Youtube, really does make it look like so so much less work than it actually is.

The reality is just that video is a lot of damn work to make even slightly well, which is why movies cost so damn much money. Your favorite low-budget director had a lot of friends and family working for free.

in reply to @cathoderaydude's post:

Every time I see a youtuber get the brain worms, and start chasing the "algorithm", obsessing over view counts and clickthrough rates and number go up, I invariably also see them get more and more haggard, the content more and more threadbare, and then after months or years get followed up by a video about burnout and the dangers of listening to what the Youtube numbers say...

I say this as someone who was a complete failure as a Youtuber, but it still just doesn't seem worth it to do that to yourself. The job is just too damn unstable to keep doing it for any reason than pure love of the craft and the luck of just being able to succeed doing what you wanted to do all along.

That's why I still have the day job, but I haven't updated the channel in years.

This makes sense, and seems like the explanation of why most popular youtube videos are just, trash. But this makes it even more sad. Nobody likes the shitshow but both Youtube and the popular Youtubers insist in that it never ends.

I felt that way about Twitter too, where people kept making it a horrible experience where you got the worst things shown to you, and the response was always "that's just what Twitter is." Just like, don't do it if that's the case???