Ash Greytree

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Ash Greytree @AshGreytree7/4/2023, 11:15 PM

Cliff 🦖 Pervocracy @pervocracy

@toilet6/27/2023, 9:23 PM

thinking about before the Great Culture War...

when people didnt preemptively argue with the comments in their posts and videos, prediciting every single counterpoint to every statement they make

its a very specific kind of poster brain rot that everyone deserves to get over. its okay to not engage in an argument with a ghost haunting your own psyche

the illustrious IRIS JAY @irisjaycomics6/27/2023, 9:59 PM

i know so many people who have, like, trauma from this

so many times i'll be in conversation at a party or a discord call or whatever and i'll hear someone say something to the effect of:

"now this show... and I want to be clear, I know that there are a lot of really wonderful people who worked on this show, and they did a really good JOB on a lot of it, and there's so much, SO much to like about it, and there are a lot of really smart people who LOVE this show and I understand that if you like this show then that's completely your opinion, I totally respect you as a person, we don't all have to like the same THINGS, right, but anyways this show, from what I saw, and what I experienced, didn't really click with me on a few fundamental levels that I can explain and cite sources for, though maybe I need to rewatch it because I just wasn't in the right headspace during my initial viewing."

and you just know that it's not really their fault, and it's coming from a place of empathy, and i feel like a fucking dipshit boomer for even pointing it out. but still. it's ok to dunk on stuff that doesn't matter, a little, sometimes, i feel

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Kran'ts Ton @sudo-EatPant6/27/2023, 10:40 PM

Ghostbusters cant help with this 😔

in reply to @irisjaycomics's post:

G.C. Houle @gchoule6/27/2023, 11:38 PM

Extremely. I've gotten into the habit of stopping ppl cold with "I am your friend, it's ok. We can bitch. We can converse."

Also being a little mean is fun and funny.

Josie 🥦@josiebroccoli6/28/2023, 12:17 AM

Oh gosh yeah I think I've probably been guilty of this myself

bigbigtruck @bigbigtruck6/29/2023, 3:35 AM

it’s an exercise of will to put out comics and not modify them for deliberate bad faith readers

effika @effika7/4/2023, 11:01 PM

Oh no that's what happened to my group messages

Oh goodness, might link to this to see if we can break the cycle a little. Good analysis.

Cliff 🦖 Pervocracy @pervocracy7/4/2023, 11:38 PM

and I've seen a lot of people observe that sometimes this turns into an overcorrection where you feel obligated to prove why the show is actually morally evil

but that's not the only bad outcome here, sometimes you don't do the overcorrection and you really do mean well and just end up saying everything like you are absolutely terrified of yourself

Librus @Librus7/5/2023, 4:38 AM

Ugh, I've been so poisoned by this, it's a subconscious behavior at this point I have to actively fight. (It doesn't help that that one my parents was - and still is - a serious contranarian.) I have anxiety pretty badly as it is - having to basically ensure everything I say is... fortified against any counterpositions any hypothetical person might have.

I can't like something too much, or I'm a "shill". (And I like enjoying things, even "bad" things, with feverish enthusiasm!) I can't dislike something too much either, for more obvious reasons.

... I actually remember during a particularly heated argument with a once-ago-friend, me actually going: "Wait. This is absurdly stressful. Why am I justifying myself with these essays to someone who probably won't ever be convinced? They tore me to pieces the second they found out something Wrong with me, so I doubt this begging is going to change anything outside of wasting both of our time." And I just... sent a short message saying exactly that, blocked them, and moved on.

I really do hope someday things sort of... push through the other side. Back on the Hellsite, I'm seeing arguments so... hair-trigger, so inane, that they defy description. People, especially little kids, are being practically trained into this line of thinking online. With things separating again into more localized groups, maybe this is the healing we - and they - need.