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luna the deer @BappyDeerHooves12/21/2022, 11:45 AM

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Cay @caymanwent12/20/2022, 6:39 AM

My renewed bit is descending on people who say "furries are all engineers and tech wizards and that's why they can afford fursuits and 3 cons a year" like a swarm of angry locusts to remind them that furries are more than just the same few you see and a majority of us work for under $50K a year and participate in less visible ways. Most of us are ordinary, overworked, underpaid folk.

Cay @caymanwent12/20/2022, 6:41 AM

I really wish people would understand the mythos of the "suspiciously wealthy furry who is a patron of the arts" is exceedingly rare and most of us are just schlubs working service and retail like a majority of people.

🔩🔩 agender wound man 🔩🔩@knifemilk12/20/2022, 7:20 AM

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Jads @jads12/20/2022, 2:20 PM

I block people who say that now, ha ha. Maybe it's "mean" of me but honestly I just get so frustrated by that idea that my knee-jerk reaction is to just decide I don't want to see anything else they have to say.

In a similar vein, I also block people who get precious about art (really, only visual art) in furry - there are so many other ways that it comes out and yet.......

Ha ha, I suppose I've just become super intolerant of what I see as mental laziness in that regard :|

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Arthur Dithers Tayra @ArthurDTayra12/20/2022, 6:54 AM

Yes, this, absolutely this. Hospitality worker here (night shift hotel front desk) and I am nowhere close to being that techy.

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Cay @caymanwent12/20/2022, 7:23 AM

Perhaps I'm a little too suspicious of the cultural byline but the constant refrain of "furries are visibly queer but we accept them because they're all secretly wealthy" smacks a little too heavily of the overtones of "we only accept queerness if it's profitable"

🔩🔩 agender wound man 🔩🔩@knifemilk12/20/2022, 8:32 AM

it feels like a way for not exactly upper class but more comfortable-in-life furries to feel better about their hobby by making it out to be something respectable because "um actually,, very successful and important people are furries and are why art gets funded", and to distance themselves from the very real and large number of furries that are only artists because they are otherwise unemployable due to varying combinations of disability, mental illness, race, gender, etc.
and the rest that are completely unable to function and survive within capitalist society let alone create or consume and participate in some idealized insular vision of furry culture.

aside from the "respectable queers" thing, it's that + trying to convince themselves and others that "furries aren't all mentally unstable unemployed socially inept weirdos" the way they see and judge the enormous impossible to ignore frayed-edge fringes of their own subculture that they're embarrassed by and could very much have been if their life circumstances were different

Cay @caymanwent12/20/2022, 9:07 AM

You put that all very succinctly.

Millie(let)@Gyro12/21/2022, 11:26 PM

Yeah it's exactly that.

Vera Lycaon @VeraLycaon12/20/2022, 7:25 AM

mood. like, the overwhelming majority of furries are poor as shit and often struggling with finances, if they aren't too disabled to hold a conventional job at all like I am

people go off about 'suspiciously wealthy furries' and here I'm sitting like "bitch I live in a fucking trash can"

🔩🔩 agender wound man 🔩🔩@knifemilk12/20/2022, 8:34 AM

lmao same

cassie @porglezomp12/20/2022, 9:54 PM

Suspiciously wealthy furries are just a little piece of trickle-down economics into furry spaces.

Zest @zestinpeace12/20/2022, 10:51 PM

isn't the popular refrain "the majority of important engineers/tech wizards are furries", not "most furries are engineers/tech wizards"? or have i just been reading those posts too charitably?

i always thought of it as a good-natured acknowledgement of the fact that furries have done more than enough to not deserve their irrationally bad reputation. then again, you could argue it supports the assumption that being "useful" and/or wealthy is what earns you respect, when it really shouldn't be that way.

that said, the statement "if you do engineering or tech work, you will be side by side with furries" is still a nice one to me. i don't think there's harm in acknowledging that, as long as you're aware that said demographic doesn't encapsulate all furries

signal eleven @widr12/20/2022, 11:00 PM

by my understanding it's specifically fields of cybersecurity and infrastructure maintenance that get a large proportion of visible furries; i theorize this is because they are kind of sidelined in terms of visibility but also critically important, which gives these practitioners latitudes of personal expression you can't get if you're working on the floors where the weird ghouls in suits walk around. combine this with some kind of cultural osmosis of interests and the general attractiveness of complex & introspective fields like computer science to people who are shy or excluded and i think you can explain a lot of it.

signal eleven @widr12/20/2022, 11:02 PM

i would guess it's uniquely(ish) noticeable for furries because fursuits aren't really the kind of thing you can get from a tailor. even if you have an eye popping amount of money you still have to commission art and gear from community members

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