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bcj
@bcj

went for a walk in a bad mood thinking about how much we've ceded to ads. how much is destroyed either because it was less valuable than ads or because its value cratered as it became increasingly inundated with ads. How much time and money itself is wasted on ads. How fundamentally disconnected advertising is from letting people know whether they would like a product or service or how that product or service compares to others.

Then I got to thinking about the absurd amounts of processing power my phone has and about how, outside of faster network speed, it feels like there's nothing that makes it particularly nicer than the phone I had 5 or 10 years ago (which had a headphone jack, btw)—I'm still just text/voice chatting with friends and I'm still not particularly interested in watching video or playing games on it1. Then I walked by a kid talking on his watch like he's Dick Tracy2 and what are we even doing here? I do not doubt there are some nice things about smart watches but the ergonomics of talking on it seem worse (and the sound quality on both ends) and to say that is handsfree is the hollowest win imaginable.

And the thing about so much vaunted real or fake future tech (smart appliances, AR, touchscreen everything, flying cars, jet packs) is that it's either obviously shit outside the realm of a book or movie, or it's only useful in incredibly limited situations, or if you put an amount of money and energy into perfecting and supporting it that companies can't or won't spend. And yet, so much of our society requires this idea of progress completely separated from any idea of improvement so what can we do but have the courage to redesign everything every year?

Anyway, those are some thoughts that are arguably related


  1. Hell, as impressive as the apple's arm computers are, it's not like most of the improvements have meant much for what I do day-to-day. I do way more voice calls and some more screen-sharing than I used to but also I do most of that on my PC I built like 7 years ago.

  2. Like he's old enough to even understand what that means... Like I'm even old enough to understand what that means—the movie was already an anachronism and I was 2 when it came out.


vogon
@vogon
  • a lot of capitalism-likers1 like pointing at arguments that a market economy can be mathematically proven to create the most value for people, which I have to admit that I've read a microeconomics textbook and the math even adds up at a glance. but the thing they avoid mentioning about it is that at least in the simplest formulation, these proofs only hold in an environment of what economists call perfect competition, a set of assumptions which can basically be expressed as "every product in a category is interchangeable, starting a business and going out of business are both free, perfect information is universally available, and all buyers are rational." this set of assumptions carries with it two really funny corollaries that obviously don't describe the real world and which I will always remember: nobody makes a profit in the long term2 and advertising does not exist3.
  • I have a dim view of behavioral economics but I think a lot about the experiment from the chapter "the cost of free" in dan ariely's "predictably irrational":

IN ONE EXPERIMENT, Kristina Shampanier (a PhD student at MIT), Nina Mazar (a professor at the University of Toronto), and I went into the chocolate business. Well, sort of. We set up a table at a large public building and offered two kinds of chocolates—Lindt truffles and Hershey's Kisses. There was a large sign above our table that read, "One chocolate per customer." Once the potential customers stepped closer, they could see the two types of chocolate and their prices.

When we set the price of a Lindt truffle at 15 cents and a Kiss at one cent, we were not surprised to find that our customers acted with a good deal of rationality: they compared the price and quality of the Kiss with the price and quality of the truffle, and then made their choice. About 73 percent of them chose the truffle and 27 percent chose a Kiss.

Now we decided to see how FREE! might change the situation. So we offered the Lindt truffle for 14 cents and the Kisses free. Would there be a difference? Should there be? After all, we had merely lowered the price of both kinds of chocolate by one cent.

But what a difference FREE! made. The humble Hershey's Kiss became a big favorite. Some 69 percent of our customers (up from 27 percent before) chose the FREE! Kiss, giving up the opportunity to get the Lindt truffle for a very good price.


  1. I'm saying this here instead of "capitalists" to clarify that it's about their opinion of a mode of production not their class role

  2. since anyone can enter the market, cut $1 from the price of a widget, and sell them in preference to everyone else, ad infinitum, until everyone is selling as many widgets as is humanly possible for exactly the amount of money they cost to make

  3. since the rational, perfectly-informed buyer is never going to spend more than they have to on a widget


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in reply to @vogon's post:

other things that entirely preclude the capitalism liker's conception of markets matching reality:

  1. economies of scale
  2. limited budgets and borrowing power (see: gig taxis and other VC companies' strategy of just buying out monopolistic market share at a huge initial loss)
  3. imperfect logistics and non-interchangeable operating locations
  4. any kind of exclusivity contract, of the type that forms most of the basis of every successful company in the real world (we will sign on to be our supplier for X time) which allow the survival of companies by locking out the market from continuous dealing
  5. any form of extramarket influence whatsoever: regulatory capture, lobbying in general... arguably all of advertising actually falls into this category too.

capitalism is necessarily totalizing, and any amount of capitalism incentivizes its winning participants to expand it. this daydreamy idea of """free""" markets as an inherent feature of capitalism rather than a transitional mechanism that allows the capitalist system's actors to parasitize everything that hasn't fully leaned into its values and incentives until all the juice has been drained and all the copper stripped. in the endgame of capitalism, markets only appear free to those who have the undeniable might to back up their actions with annihilating force.

nobody makes a profit in the long term

ergo

The goal of any corporation is to make a market uncompetitive. That is tautologically the only path to profitability.

the "we merely lowered the price of both by one cent" is so comical to me because it completely ignores that a free thing removes the overhead of having to perform a transaction at all. i don't have to talk to anyone, i don't have to rifle through my pockets for the right coin, i don't have to ask for change, i don't have to wait. i can take a candy and leave!