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TalenLee
@TalenLee

where Popeye listed Popeye's gender as 'amphibious' because Popeye can wear men or women's clothing.

Popeye's twitter account also said Popeye doesn't have pronouns because Popeye's nouns are all amateurs


seeliefae
@seeliefae

Popeye here is expounding on the teachings of the Sufi mystic Rabi'a al-Adawiyya, about whom the following story is told:

One day, Rabi'a was seen walking the streets with a torch in one hand and a pitcher of water in the other. When asked why, she replied that the water was to put out the fires of Hell, and the torch was to burn down Heaven, because the fear of punishment and the promise of reward are both distractions from that which is truly fulfilling, that is, basking in the love of God.

O God! If I worship You for fear of Hell, burn me in Hell
and if I worship You in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise.
But if I worship You for Your Own sake,
grudge me not Your everlasting Beauty.

Even if you're not religious you have to admit that that's metal as fuck.


makyo
@makyo

Popeye: also a notable student of Gustavo Gutiérrez, Peruvian philosopher and liberation theologist.

In his book On Job: God-Talk and the Suffering of the Innocent, he posits that Job exemplifies disinterested religion — that is, a non-transactional faith that holds even when there is not a direct benefit or punishment. “[The author of the Book of Job] believes it to be possible, although he undoubtedly knew the difficulty that human suffering, one’s own and that of others, raises against authentic faith in God. Job, whom he makes the vehicle of his own experience, will be his spokesman.” Can we maintain our faith in the divine without interest — interest, here, in a financial sense — such that we maintain our belief without worry of punishment or expectation of reward?

Popeye says yes.


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I really love how there's a cultural continuity or at least convergent evolution between Sufi mystics and Eastern Orthodox contemplatives. I don't really know that much about either unfortunately but as an outsider I can't help but giggle about it when I glimpse some similarities

I don't actually know much about Eastern Orthodox beliefs or mystic traditions, but I do know that Sufism arose out of a melting pot of cultures. The same zeitgeist produced the Bhakti movement in Vedic traditions, and then later in Spain the Sufis got together with Christian and Jewish mystics and out of that kettle rose Kabbalah. Since mysticism is about experience and human experience is a universal that transcends culture and religion it turns out that a lot of schools of mysticism end up with similar practices or conclusions despite separations of language and culture, and I think that's really cool.

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