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There's one particular website that aims to aggregate engineering jobs in line with one's values. (I don't want to name it, not out of any kind of vagueposting impulse, but because this seems like a symptom of a larger problem.) The site lists several dozen things that a person or a company might conceivably value, such as:

  • Has good beer
  • Eats lunch together
  • Various other traits of a company that might make it pleasant or lucrative to work for but are not, ultimately, values

Things that are not included on the list of values that a person or company might conceivably possess:

  • Does ethical work for ethical clients
  • Does not do unethical work for unethical clients
  • Makes the world a better place
  • Does not make the world a worse place
  • Anything resembling the above
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my therapist‽ linked me to a curated website for ethical jobs (not a jobs board) and it was all either AI bullshit or cybersecurity for gross companies. i felt so gaslit.

eventually i kinda figured out the rationale was something like you're in charge of protecting ppl from the AI bullshit you're building, or protecting the data of the victims users of the bad companies, so its good actually.

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Also: one time I volunteered with a video game event, and they were trying to define their organization's internal core values. Someone kept pushing for "video games" to be a core value, and the higher-ups had to explain that's not what a value is, that's an activity we do, values are how we do it. And the guy kept saying "no, video games is a value."

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