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Hi! I'm DarkOverord! I'm an agender furry who also does digital art, and it's almost entirely furry.
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Usually I'm a vampire hedgehog, sometimes I'm not a hedgehog but still ΘΔ
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in reply to @whatnames's post:
i think you can just relabel those to jpg or png but i forget which one
my computer never accepts them when i do that unfortunately, i just get a forever buffer
Yeah that's why I have the "WebP / Avif image converter" for Firefox 'cus uuuuuuuuuurgh
The best i was able to do without installing addons, was to go into about:config in firefox and put "*/*;q=0.8,image.webp;q=0.0" as the value for key "image.http.accept".
It resulted in FF telling the sites that it doesn't like getting webp formatted images. It won't work everywhere, but for sites with content negotiation (like wikia and its images) i get more conventional formats now.
The other day, I was trying to download a nice tiling pattern from a stock image website and the ONLY download link was a webp file. It was honestly insulting.
Funny, just yesterday on a certain other site I saw a thread of people lamenting how it wasn't in wider use. I'm a layman so I don't know anything either way but the small file-size seemed cool?
It's nice if you run a website and don't want to pay extra for transfer, especially with huge traffic and a lot of images served (short: smol size good). But as a person who wants to save the image from such site and use it for anything (like a quick dumb meme done in mspaint, or even use it as your desktop wallpaper) you're out of luck because the program you use most probably can't open it (short: new unsupported format bad).
one billion percent this, thank you for summing it up so succinctly
(somehow my meme post didn't get this nuance across lmao)
Ok thanks, this is more or less the argument I've seen against it. Fair enough. I have run into it once or twice but I don't have the Gift of Memes which is probably why it hasn't bothered me to much. Now conversely, in the same thread I saw people saying that the webp format dates back to like 2001 and it just didn't ever see that much uptake. Would it be impossible now that it's getting popular for it to soon be more widely supported? Or is there something inherent to the format? Sorry for all the questions!
the general state of support uptake for new image formats in the world is just Apocalyptically Bad. you're not missing anything, it's super slow and support seemingly just never happens
Main reason to look for new (or old but not widely known) image formats with stronger, lossless compression, has been web's shift to mobile (less reliable connections, having to care for transfer limits on client side). If not for that, it would probably still be an obscure format known only to a specific circle of geeks.
Big problem for wide support is range of devices and setups in the world. There's no quick switch to rollout webp everywhere all at once, unless some big enough player forces others to change their priorities - like Google did its huge part for widespread https use for all websites, or when Apple basically killed off flash player on web by completely dropping the support on iPhones. For image formats, there's seemingly no easy way to do such huge shift, since webp is not going to replace png/jpeg/gif (just coexist with them), so there's nothing that could be sacrificed to force everyone to move to new formats.
add JFIF to this too... "save image as" on twitter wants to save it as that by default and it SUCKS!!!!!!!!
JFIF is the most baffling thing to me. it stands for JPEG File Interchange Format. It's a hecking JPEG but they made it weird!!!
it makes no sense!!!! it works in zero programs and if you rename it to jpeg and it works in every program again!!! why did they make this?!?!
JFIF is the technical term for the file format, but for whatever reason they went with the .jpg/.jpeg file extension back in the day. The real issue there is that things care about the file extension (which is for humans) rather than the file contents (which is for computers).
jfif more like smokes a j and drinks a fif and comes up with this format
Yeah, but we were overdue for a "brand new format that'll change the world by being a shallow wrapper around an existing format that makes it hard for existing software to recognize what's going on"...
Me too. I use a recent enough Linux Mint (20.2), and webp doesn't generate thumbnails in the file browser and the default app to open them is the web browser, not the image viewer.
There's zero adoption.
But worst of all is the name. WEBP is such a joyless, generic name... Why would I want all my images to be named after the web?? Is the web taking credit for images now? and four letters too, which is -1 points right away.
It might be a slightly better format (Who knows?), but is a small improvement worth this utter lack of appeal?
PNG stands for "Portable Network Graphic", which is kinda the same but not at the same time...? Both are named to suggest that they're good for moving pixels via series of tubes.
True, but at least they hide it away in a cute abbreviation so you don't have to see it constantly.
WBP would have been a small improvement, tho it still kinda ends up reading "web".
important update: i have added the tag "#webp discourse" in case you would like to muffle it like i did and Obtain Peace <3
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