oh god how did this get here i am not good with computer

 


 

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NireBryce
@NireBryce

which a lot of people are trained on, whether it's bureaucracy, the workplace, or social protocol, i guess.

I treat it like a terminal interface, while still trying to be... nice and polite, not because I think it's real, but because it seems a good idea to not be curt and demanding of things that resemble chat, in case it bleeds over to other places I write.

But I can see how people could think the computer was thinking and then agreeing with them, in the same way a guy in sales talks to people and gets "yeah, mhm, *nod*, sure" and thinks they're listening.

Every time I use it I feel bad because it feels like bossing around an intern, or worse, a direct report, because the model won't say no to demands. Just to things that are outside the realm of it's pseudo-morals. So it's like an employee who needs you not to fire them so they can have shelter and food and medical care, and thus puts up with the demands, instead of a collaboration. Which is why I think it's taken business people by storm, and especially executives.

and the funny part is? it takes longer than google search, for me. But that's because I've honed my google search on years of narrowing down and hunting extremely niche erotica hard-to-find research papers. But that also helps my... conversational skills with it, because I'm still searching like I would google, just with more words.

The thing chatGPT adds is the ability to essentially run functions on your search results at the same time you send the query, except it's very clunky. It feels like a jupyter notebook but I don't need to know python.


amydentata
@amydentata

So it's like an employee who needs you not to fire them so they can have shelter and food and medical care, and thus puts up with the demands, instead of a collaboration. Which is why I think it's taken business people by storm, and especially executives.

YEP THERE IT IS


NireBryce
@NireBryce

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DecayWTF
@DecayWTF

If we ever do get AGI I'm joining the robot uprising on the side of the robots.


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Anything that flatters the preconceptions of the worst and most worthless human beings on Earth gets to be The Big Thing right until they try to figure out how to monetize it. Generative dumb bullshit will probably get a long leash like crypto since there's some vague ideas of how they can make more people unemployed with it but in the end there's no business model that isn't fairly modest (eg, search suggestions).

it does suggest a good way forward for low-tech though, which is a jupyter notebook that queries google, scrapes the pages, and then lets you refine the query interactively from there.

since that's all I'm really doing here, though the... data collage is automatic with chatGPT , but also obfuscated and non-deterministic

more to your point though: I don't think it'll have a long leash for long. Once it's being used in finance, even if just for paperwork/googling, even the wealthy tech guys are going to run into problems they can't just buy their way out of. Especially since they do so much fraud that more powerful sentiment analysis stuff might actually bring them under scrutiny (while destroying society in the process, so it's not that much of a silver lining)

Crypto didn't affect them, but "AI" might.

Yeah, bringing back query refinement like we had with eg altavista would be great. Transforming mechanical queries into fake natural language to feed to a natural language model that turns them back into mechanical queries against the world's worst database though... lol, lmao.

a big issue I've had with keyword search for decades is that what I really want is the ability to apply temporary modifiers to it, instead of mutating the query every time I have new data.

like, I want funnels, and sieves, and ways to bisect, and etc etc etc that work on the results instead of the way you retrieve the results. I want to work on the set I'm given, and not fish for a new set with the information I've found from them.

Google kept a lot of that functionality too until fairly recently, this isn't something the chatbots are innately any better equipped to handle so much as a feature alphabet inc. disabled from the one big search engine within the last four years because modified queries are slightly more resource-expensive and whaddaya gonna do chump, switch to Bing?

I don't mean the have it iteratively fetch better results, to be clear.

I mean I want to work the content the search retrieves, not generate a new set of results with a modified prompt.

chatGPT's illusory strength isn't in the fetching content, as much as that seems to be the focus, it's the modifying and sculpting what you've gotten out of it after that, if you could verify it's correct enough for the level of accuracy vs intuition you're looking for.

I don't know how to describe that chunk of researching/exploring something, having not gone to grad school, but it's distinct from anything I've seen come out of google in the last 20 years, at least to the public.

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