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oh god how did this get here i am not good with computer

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Gay Eminem on 9/11 @DecayWTF8/25/2022, 5:42 PM

gravis again @cathoderaydude

gravis again @cathoderaydude8/25/2022, 5:33 PM

we have flown so far from the light

this is the peak of user interface design and i am not even joking. it has some color contrast issues and the progress bar labels need more breathing room, yet, given that this is not something you stare at all day, they're a reasonable compromise. dense, yet logically grouped information. no wasted space. this window has it all.

this is a window you can park on a high-mount status monitor so your NOC techs can glance up at it during diagnostics and get all the data they need in two seconds

#computers

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~@modulusshift8/25/2022, 5:59 PM

hmmm I dunno about this. There's a weird mix of "this info is relevant right now" and "I guess you probably need to know this occasionally?". Like current status vs configuration details, all mixed together. Do I really need to know the manufacturing date and that it's connected via USB with the same urgency as Selftest running? Also is UPS State: ONBATT really a "software information"?

I also think that I'm moderately offended by the bars. "percent whatever" fine yeah bars aren't terrible for that, but what the heck would a full bar of "Minutes remaining" mean? and the Volts DC bar, what's a full bar of that mean? should I be worried that it isn't a full bar? should I be worried if it is? And why the heck is it represented as 0-whatever volts, when if it's anywhere below like 18 there's probably a major problem. If over half your bar is a "oh shit" zone, then your bar is miscalibrated IMO, if you had to use a bar for this number, "good" status should be the middle of it.

This window looks like an engineer was given an API and the GTK toolkit and just decided to link up everything one to one, as given, with very little regard to what the user actually needs to see.

gravis again @cathoderaydude8/25/2022, 6:01 PM

but all the info is there, with no emphasis on anything. this is using an API - someone with a more specific goal could make another app with the same API to emphasize the parts they need

but this same program, made today, would have perhaps four data on the entire screen, in four times the real estate, and you would need to dig and dig and dig to get any more, if it was there at all

~@modulusshift8/25/2022, 7:27 PM

I get what you mean. I would argue both this and the modern version you're talking about both are in need of some serious design, from the "design is how it works" camp, not the "design is how it looks" camp. Dense isn't really better than hidden in my opinion, your eyes glaze over and hide the info for you. That is the purpose of the big blue status bar at the top of this app, which I both recoil from and recognize the necessity of.

I gotta say, my favorite part of this is actually the "refresh" button. I don't know who decided we can't have those anymore. It would be better to architect your application in such a way that you don't need it, but that's quite often just not an option. Yet you still can't do anything about being shown stale data. I'd change the "Automatic update completed" message in the status bar to display the time of said update and call that whole corner of the app blessed.

gravis again @cathoderaydude8/25/2022, 8:23 PM

oh yeah, no argument with any of the above. i only think that if we're never going to have a future where software is designed thoughtfully (and I don't think we will,) then we were better off in 2003. usefulness, let alone usability, cratered after material design.

~@modulusshift8/25/2022, 8:28 PM

man, fuck Matias Duarte I guess lol

genuinely the man did incredible work at Palm, but there's threads of where he started losing his mind in his later webOS Mochi work which quickly got worse when he went to Google, IMO

okay, okay, this is the second comment thread in as many days where I ended up talking about webOS, I need to write a post on this stuff haha, I just need to find something in my house that can still run the webOS SDK

philosophy major (derogatory (reclamative))@nullpat8/25/2022, 6:43 PM

it's absolutely wild how much more you used to be able to fit on a 1024x768 or even 800x600 screen than you can now at 1920x1080

Jack @MrNuclearMonster8/25/2022, 10:03 PM

Woah this window is very GTK

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