Dex

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PhormTheGenie
@PhormTheGenie

If and when Microsoft follow through with their proposed plan of instilling AI-driven spyware in Windows 11 (And killing Windows 10 in 2025), I do wonder what it'll do to the VR landscape.


Dex
@Dex

yeah, VR is the big question

it is the only reason why bad gaming laptop is still on win10 rather than having been repurposed for proxmox or something, because yep, last time i tried vr on linux, it was harder to get working and not as performant as i would expect - and that was with an index, so without the issues that come with quest hardware on linux
it has been a few months since i've last tried but i haven't heard about anything substantially moving the needle since

even in circumstances that would make the vision pro more palatable to critters we know for vrchat... 1 the version on the headset will be compromised in a similar way as the quest version, but worse, because now not only will it not have the stuff uploaded for windows, it may not have a lot of the stuff compiled for android either 2.
using the vision pro as a wireless PCVR headset is possible but brings thing back to the main problem

a lot of rumours about deckard have slowed; the main one turned out to be actually the steam deck oled. maybe at some point, valve will remember it. their github repo on steamvr issues on linux is still being updated, at least - though it seems relatively slow going

and so yeah, no good answers. maybe we'll try again once nvidia fix their drivers.

(and if you bought a windows mixed reality headset, those are in an even more precarious position, just for extra salt)


  1. (eye and face tracking opened up as an option for third party apps, and at least half the price)

  2. from the devblog - "What content will be available? That’s complicated! We have a few tricks up our sleeve for bringing over Android content for iOS – but right now, everything is in a very early test phase."


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I'd like to try VR someday in far flung future but for the next several years I'll be unable, so I don't really have anything to add on that. I literally don't know what I'm going to do regarding my PC going forward though. My current PC is so old that it can't handle Windows 11, so for security I need to get a new PC by next year... which I may be able to pull off. But I have to decide between Windows 11 and Linux before then and plan for it... My tablet and art programs I would be using (which I hadn't touched for years until last week) don't play nice with Linux and neither does the program I do most of my serious writing in. I basically have to go with Win 11 which I HATE. I hate this >n<

VR is likely becoming a niche within a niche as we move forward. I anticipate it will either and die as a consequence.

But, yeah, I'm sort of in the same boat. My existing computer can't jump to Windows 11 and I consider that a feature, not a drawback. That being said, Linux doesn't support... Most of what I want to do creatively.

I know Rose made a big post about exactly what you're going through with the tablet woes, too. It's awful and it sucks for everyone!!! I wish it weren't so!

I keep hoping that the changing tech environment will lead to "evolutionary" changes in Linux and compatibility built into software etc.

I feel like the only way for that to happen is for those software companies to feel enough economic pressure to build for Linux as one of their defaults. I remember when Macs weren't supported by a lot of software and that's changed a lot. I guess if an art program like Krita which IS made to be compatible with Linux were to suddenly add a lot of the features that keep people locked into CSP/Affinity/Adobe programs it would begin to apply that pressure but... I don't see that happening currently U_U

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