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lorenziniforce
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pendell
@pendell

serious question how do you get a fucking job in this country, I've submitted like a dozen or so applications and continue to get radio silence in response. do companies even look at applications.

lorenziniforce
@lorenziniforce

i am genuinely starting to wonder how much of the employment crisis in many places worldwide has to do with the jobseeking industry and standard practices completely imploding. Like it is starting more and more to feel both jobseekers and even to a degree companies looking to hire are getting fucked over by middlemen and spam (both of offers and applications)

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secrets
@secrets

ime you might get any response at all from one in twenty to fifty. Putting actual individual effort into applications was a waste of time, by the time I got a real offer I was churning out dozens of completely generic ones a week on the platforms that'll just let you copy-paste between everyone's identical form, and still have no recollection of ever seeing or applying for the job I got.

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pendell
@pendell

The last job I got was through an entirely paper application that I had to request from them because I saw a Hiring sign in their window, something straight out of the pre-internet era. I don't think I've ever gotten so much as a call or email back from a single online application I've ever submitted, which makes me question what's the fucking point of companies putting online job listings and accepting online applications.

How am I supposed to get a job then? Because any of these companies that do it all online will treat you like a freak if you try to come in and apply in person.

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stu
@stu

i don't know what sort of work you do but as a generic tech guy i've had good luck making a linkedin profile with relevant keywords and talking to recruiters when they get in touch. it's more labor intensive per contact but way higher signal to noise ratio

my understanding is that in the modern era there's a war going on between lazy ai applicants and crappy ai recruitment filters so it's hard to get seen

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pendell
@pendell

I don't have anything above a high school diploma and a few years in customer service experience lol. I'm applying for shit like office receptionist and Pizza Hut cashier, you'd think I would've heard back on something by now.

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pendell
@pendell

I was making about $18/hr, besides taking a pretty extreme pay cut, I'd go insane if I ever had to work in a restaurant again. Right before I got this job I applied, interviewed, and made it all the way to my first day at Waffle House. After about 4 hours of my first day in training I immediately knew I could last maybe two or three months before I would just fucking collapse under the constant stress and insane fast pace, so I turned in before even finishing my first day. I'm just not cut out for that environment haha.

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oddmerit
@oddmerit

in the past year* of hunting ive sent 50ish applications and can count the amount of interviews ive had on one hand. i literally got rejected for an art retail job at a gallery as someone with a bachelor of fine arts who’s done art retail before. the local art store keeps posting the same 2 or 3 positions and ive applied almost every time but i’ve NEVER heard back from them.

*calendar-wise it’s been two years but i had an 8 month pause for reasons so its effectively one year

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AlignedForFur
@AlignedForFur

It feels like the jobseeking market is all hoax now - it's either nepotism, backroom contacts or lottery in getting through the consult/vetting/temp agency farm that big companies are using to insulate themselves from bad hires by blaming the temp agency

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lorenziniforce
@lorenziniforce

even here in the philippines where this shit isn't as bad yet, nepotism in the "my grandma knew someone from at publisher that was looking to hire part time editors" sense was the only way i could even get six months of contract work. i think even beyond horrible temp agencies, the rise of jobseeking websites and its effects has been something that even very well meaning companies like the midsized local puiblisher i worked at have struggled to cope with

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widr
@widr

there are also periods of extensive fraud, especially early in the pandemic, when companies received breaks or direct subsidies for merely appearing to be hiring for positions they had no intention to fill

this is also done to suppress wages by making it seem like people's jobs are be about to be maybe redundant, or elevated workloads will be only temporary

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Krowbird
@Krowbird

Honestly the only way I know of that’s anywhere even in the neighborhood of reliable (and this is by no means so - it’s still a complete crapshoot) is to submit your resume to a bunch of contracting companies/placement agencies. Of course, these jobs are generally pretty crappy and you’ll have to sift through a lot of cruft, but I genuinely feel like nobody out there hires on directly anymore, and sometimes something is better than nothing.

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