DuoRogue

DuoRogue

@DuoRogue

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avali, shapeshifter, bunfox, dragon
(from most to least common)

send me asks if you want. You're always allowed to turn veynuz into things, by the way (in fact, you should)

otherkin (avali, usually)

a rat: ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ

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caffeinatedOtter
@caffeinatedOtter

"apps have completely eroded tech literacy!"

can you actually demonstrate as a fact, not an assumption on your part, that tech literacy has ever been a general-purpose phenomenon

because I was working in retail selling games consoles at the last point they could arguably still be thought of as standalone plug-and-play machines, and lemme tell you, substantial numbers of people struggle to cope with the technological demands of "plug in both the power and video cables. The other end of the video cable needs to be plugged into your TV"

caffeinatedOtter
@caffeinatedOtter

there are many many reasons to hate the arc of tech toward grasping control, functionality fragmented and siloed into units of marketing, and swingeing monetisation; but harkening back to a time People Understood Computers ain't it

amydentata
@amydentata

kinda seems like maybe the thing that's actually changed is the average person went from "can't use computers because they don't understand them" to "can use [some form of] computers without needing to understand them"

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gkrnours
@gkrnours

I've heard a couple of time story of young people joining the workforce and not knowing what files and folder are. You take a photo in one app, you use share button when viewing one picture to send the photo to a friend in an app.

I can believe big tech is working hard to hide files because that give them much more power. Like youtube downloader can't be a thing if there are no files, only apps

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jcolag
@jcolag

Oh, computer people have been like this since the beginning, and it's always "society is doomed, because students no longer learn the specific thing that I needed to learn and worked my entire career to make sure that people wouldn't need to care about every again."

I suspect that the term "literacy" spurs the conversation, because actual literacy and media literacy stand mostly as universal concepts, whereas "computer literacy" swerves around being able to design and fix circuits, keying in machine code, building compilers, assembling machines from commodity parts, infinitely nested file systems, and every other thing that "kids these days" may or may not learn...

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evelynpupper
@evelynpupper

our understanding of the current "tech literacy erosion" thing is that there's been a major reduction in the ability to problem-solve anything not neatly wrapped up in an app compared to previous averages, not a reduction in the base level of knowledge involved

that apps are a deliberately sandboxed and obfuscated way of presenting information and activities doesn't help with this, but it's not solely responsible

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doodlemancy
@doodlemancy

i think a lot of this panicky talk is coming from people who don't spend a lot of time observing the public tbh. when i think about tech literacy i think about my years spent behind a cash register regularly watching people having emotional meltdowns over the concept of the chip reader (mostly not being able to identify what part of their credit/debit card is the chip) and going WHY IS IT SO COMPLICATED. or like. not understanding that the barcode scanner scans barcodes, not objects or words. or not being able to identify the USB port on the photo printing kiosk.

the fact that basically everyone has adapted to using a smartphone and is regularly online... honestly amazes me.

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