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Keeble
@Keeble

yeah there's the part that personally affects me most as a nonbinary service worker--you don't know what someone's gender is by looking at them. sometimes i go more femme, sometimes i go more masc. By going sir or ma'am you might be misgendering someone you never met and making their day worse. this happens to me at least once an hour when on register. i don't think that part will be much news or disagreed on by basically everyone on cohost.

but think about the tone in which sir or ma'am is often said towards any food service or retail worker. sure, its on its face respectful, but its often quite condescending. you know what tone i mean, "excuse me, sir". "uh, ma'am?". People say sir or ma'am to someone they feel above, most of the time, in contrast to its surface level formality. they're talking down to you. hell ive even caught myself slipping and doing this tone to annoying customers. it doesn't help anything


Cania
@Cania

About the fourth time I misgendered someone I just stopped using gendered pronouns for people. The risk was too high, even if it meant some people thought I wasn't being very polite. It's saved a lot of trouble over the long run.


EarthShaker
@EarthShaker

I don't precisely know when I picked it up but at some point in my twenties I started using those because I couldn't figure out how to get someone's attention without saying "Hey you" and sir/ma'am seemed to work. That was before I got wise about gender stuff though. By the time I got my head right they'd been ingrained and now I have to work them back out. The idea that I might make someone feel like shit out of lazy habit makes my skin crawl.

I take it as an opportunity to have fun now. "partner" "my friend" "neighbor" "listen here, fucker"


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in reply to @Keeble's post:

My father is a cis man but he grew up in Ireland where (at least during the time he lived there) "sir" was only to be used on people who were unambiguously higher ranking than you. He hated being called sir by service workers in the US.

This has been one of the hardest things to unlearn 'cuz my parents DRILLED "yes sir" "yes ma'am" into my head as the only way to address people properly and ESPECIALLY them both.

I am still seeking a good non-binary replacement for the reverse: "Ma'am, this is an Arby's." That reminder that the only reason I'm indulging you at this moment is because I am a service worker, and part of this kayfabe includes that you remember and respect that my duties do not include indulging your crap.

"My fellow citizen of the World, this is an Arby's" is gender neutral and includes a flavour that asserts 'we are not anything special to each other' and is flowery enough it might get the other party to pump the brakes a bit.

in reply to @Cania's post:

I’ve been doing this for quite a while in English but I have grown to loathe French for gendering everything under the sun, and I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that’s our society feels like it’s behind on accepting and embracing trans people