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Is it Shaker!?@EarthShaker1/20/2023, 11:31 PM

The table router I rely on for my work every single day has betrayed me once again and ruined both my workpiece AND the original template.

The bit climbed suddenly as I rounded a corner and bit it deeper than it should have, fucking everything up. Are there any fucking CARPENTERS on this site? A fucking cabinet maker? Send me a woodworker to help me figure out why the router keeps barfing out the bits no matter how tightly I secure the collet.

I am known if anything for cranking these TOO tightly to remove bits. What the fuck is happening??

edit 1/21: fixed a typo that was irritating me

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Handstands @handstandsonthecatastrophecurve1/21/2023, 1:57 AM

I'm not a big power router person and I don't know if you've already ruled it out, but that sounds like you're inadvertently climb cutting. At least that results in similarly terrifying things occurring as you describe here.

Is it Shaker!?@EarthShaker1/21/2023, 1:44 PM

I can see why you'd come to that conclusion but I can rule that one out! With the plastics I'm cutting, climb cutting tends to grab and yank them frighteningly hard, so I always rotate my workpiece the same direction every time.

Handstands @handstandsonthecatastrophecurve1/21/2023, 5:47 PM

Welp, so much for my guess.

Is it Shaker!?@EarthShaker1/21/2023, 6:18 PM

To add to the confusion today the bit is SINKING instead, at a much slower rate than it rose. This machine!!!

Handstands @handstandsonthecatastrophecurve1/21/2023, 11:42 PM

My only guess would be that the collet is worn out, damaged, or otherwise not gripping properly. Very weird machine indeed to have both of those things happen at different times.

Is it Shaker!?@EarthShaker1/21/2023, 11:50 PM

Does seem to be the case. Swapping the collet for a different (still worn) collet reduced the problem a lot but it's still occuring. The many joys and splendors of heavily, heavily used tools in a very busy shop, lol.

polerin @polerin1/23/2023, 4:42 PM

Yeah this was going to be my guess, either worn or deformed from something.

@secrets1/24/2023, 5:27 AM

A lot of routers just plain come with innately awful collet designs that'll never clamp down adequately on the bit/aren't really close to concentric/are generally designed by satanists to vibrate loose and sabotage your stock and spit the bit in your face if it can. The only real solution that I've ever seen work is to get a spindle that takes something like an ER20 collet and some holy water for the table

Is it Shaker!?@EarthShaker1/24/2023, 6:32 AM

The collets we have are almost all aging and long, long abused as we did shit like route inch thick stacks of polycarbonate sheets at speed. Til lately I'd never had reason to doubt them though because they never betrayed me this way; that all started when we borrowed/stole a router from the sister location since all of ours are out of service otherwise.

The router lifts someone bought a few years ago ONLY fit this model of router, which has since gone out of stock everywhere, and no one repairs them anymore either... Leaving us relying on these increasingly dubious tools that are running worse and worse because The Company doesn't want to order a new set of motors and lifts for every location. I bet this is just gonna get increasingly common. Ai yi yi.

@secrets1/24/2023, 10:50 PM

always a great sign when the company can't be bothered to maintain the whirling blade machine

Capt’n Arrr @Captn-Arrr1/21/2023, 2:13 AM

So you were using everything, all secured and happy, then the bit (or at least the cutting portion) rose up higher than you set it and had been using it? Wanna get it clear in my brainz before I diagnose a problem you don't have.

Is it Shaker!?@EarthShaker1/21/2023, 1:40 PM

Yes, correct. It is coming up and out of the collet; I checked afterwards and it had risen by about 5/8 of an inch. It might have come out altogether if I hadn't stopped the second it ruined my piece.

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