posts from @Fel-Temp-Reparatio tagged #Film noir

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So I've been watching a lot of old movies over the last few years, largely through laserdisc collecting, and I've made threads for my top 10 films of the 40s, 50s, and 60s, but there are other old films I think are worth watching and want to talk about. I made another thread for this, but I feel like that kind of thread might get a bit unwieldy if I let it get too big, so I think I'm going to start a new one of these every 10 films or so. Some of these films will be great, some will be flawed but interesting, and some will be complete messes that are compelling to watch for whatever reason.



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Two men on a whim decide to head down toward Mexico. They pick up a hitch-hiker only for him pull a gun on them. Turns out he's a serial killer who wants them to drive him to his escape route. A simple but extremely well executed noir thriller. William Talman is fantastic as the killer. The film is only 70 minutes, but with how much is packed into it, you might be surprised that what you watched was really that short.

And good news: this film is public domain, so it's very easy to find. I recommend this rather nice looking upload from the Library of Congress.


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An American smuggler in Europe (Robert Arden) decides that he might be able to make himself a lot of money by blackmailing a rich Eastern European man, Gregory Arkadin (Orson Welles). To his surprise, Mr. Arkadin seems pleased with with this and explains that he has no recollection of his life before 1927 and has been wanting to hire someone to research his background. The result is a globe trotting investigation.

This is one of the many Orson Welles films where he wasn't given the final cut and feels that the film was butchered. It is indeed kind of a mess, but I feel like it still would have been to a degree even in a proper cut. A lot of the early part of the film feels like a crappy B movie, complete with bad, overdubbed dialogue, and the investigation feels a bit rushed and disjointed at times. But Orson Welles' charisma saves every scene he's in, and the film gets better and better as it goes along. I'd say the second half is overall pretty solid. Not where I'd recommend starting with Orson Welles, but still worth seeking out.


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I probably should have expected Clint Eastwood's favorite movie would be this dark and unsettling. The guy made Unforgiven, after all, and this is at least as much of a deconstruction of the fantasy of the western as that film is. Word comes to town that a farmer has been shot and his cattle taken, so an angry mob forms up, calls itself a "posse," and decides that they're going to bring justice themselves, the slow court system be damned. A great film in a decade of great films, and something I'm surprised got made in the Hollywood system of the time.

Good news is that someone uploaded it to Youtube, so you can just watch it here. And I'm sure glad someone did, as my LD had trouble playing and froze up about 48 minutes in.


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An IRA agent who escaped from jail gets injured in a robbery, and things go south from there. Starts off as largely a thriller, but the latter half is more about the people our dying protagonist runs into, and whether you think this film is good or great is going to largely depend on how much that second half grabs you. That part didn't quite work for me, but for those it does work for, this is sometimes considered Carol Reed's true masterpiece, above The Third Man. This might be for you if you're really into how Robert Altman likes to flesh out the nobodies in his films. In any case, this is an extremely well directed downer of a noir film filled with grey morality.


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Edward G. Robinson is a college professor in a mid life crisis who hooks up with a much younger woman who he first sees in a painting, but he's attacked by her lover and kills him in self defense. But even a self defense killing could ruin his reputation, so he decides it's a good idea to try covering up the scene and hiding the body. The resulting crime and investigation often feels like a Columbo episode, and I mean that in a good way. A suspenseful, influential noir that for some is one of the defining works of the genre.

And the good news is that this is another public domain film, so you can just watch it on Youtube here.


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Harry Fabian (Richard Widmark) is a con man living in London who makes his living largely by hustling people into a night club and getting a commission for it. But he dreams of much bigger. He's figured out the sure thing that'll get him enough quick cash to get him and his girlfriend out of this shitty life. He just needs a few hundred quid to get things going. It's totally different than the last few times he's borrowed a few hundred quid. This time he's going to make it as a professional wrestling promoter. Don't worry about the mobster who controls wrestling in this town and doesn't like competition.

This is one of those films that got shit reviews at the time but has retroactively been reevaluated as one of the best films of its era. While it technically follows one guy, there's a lot of material about other characters' lives and side plots, and I feel like the film pulls off the balancing act better than Odd Man Out did. This is often described as a film with "no sympathetic characters," but I feel like Harry's desperation evokes a kind of pity that makes you still kind of want to root for him, even if you know you shouldn't. It's a a great noir film that really comes together in the end.

And I'm not sure if it's public domain or not, but the complete film has been on Youtube for six years, so it's another easy one to see.



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So I've been watching a lot of old movies over the last few years, largely through laserdisc collecting, and I've made threads for my top 10 films of the 40s, 50s, and 60s, but there are other old films I think are worth watching and want to talk about. I made another thread for this, but I feel like that kind of thread might get a bit unwieldy if I let it get too big, so I think I'm going to start a new one of these every 10 films or so. Some of these films will be great, some will be flawed but interesting, and some will be complete messes that are compelling to watch for whatever reason.



Fel-Temp-Reparatio
@Fel-Temp-Reparatio

Two men on a whim decide to head down toward Mexico. They pick up a hitch-hiker only for him pull a gun on them. Turns out he's a serial killer who wants them to drive him to his escape route. A simple but extremely well executed noir thriller. William Talman is fantastic as the killer. The film is only 70 minutes, but with how much is packed into it, you might be surprised that what you watched was really that short.

And good news: this film is public domain, so it's very easy to find. I recommend this rather nice looking upload from the Library of Congress.


Fel-Temp-Reparatio
@Fel-Temp-Reparatio

An American smuggler in Europe (Robert Arden) decides that he might be able to make himself a lot of money by blackmailing a rich Eastern European man, Gregory Arkadin (Orson Welles). To his surprise, Mr. Arkadin seems pleased with with this and explains that he has no recollection of his life before 1927 and has been wanting to hire someone to research his background. The result is a globe trotting investigation.

This is one of the many Orson Welles films where he wasn't given the final cut and feels that the film was butchered. It is indeed kind of a mess, but I feel like it still would have been to a degree even in a proper cut. A lot of the early part of the film feels like a crappy B movie, complete with bad, overdubbed dialogue, and the investigation feels a bit rushed and disjointed at times. But Orson Welles' charisma saves every scene he's in, and the film gets better and better as it goes along. I'd say the second half is overall pretty solid. Not where I'd recommend starting with Orson Welles, but still worth seeking out.


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I probably should have expected Clint Eastwood's favorite movie would be this dark and unsettling. The guy made Unforgiven, after all, and this is at least as much of a deconstruction of the fantasy of the western as that film is. Word comes to town that a farmer has been shot and his cattle taken, so an angry mob forms up, calls itself a "posse," and decides that they're going to bring justice themselves, the slow court system be damned. A great film in a decade of great films, and something I'm surprised got made in the Hollywood system of the time.

Good news is that someone uploaded it to Youtube, so you can just watch it here. And I'm sure glad someone did, as my LD had trouble playing and froze up about 48 minutes in.


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@Fel-Temp-Reparatio

An IRA agent who escaped from jail gets injured in a robbery, and things go south from there. Starts off as largely a thriller, but the latter half is more about the people our dying protagonist runs into, and whether you think this film is good or great is going to largely depend on how much that second half grabs you. That part didn't quite work for me, but for those it does work for, this is sometimes considered Carol Reed's true masterpiece, above The Third Man. This might be for you if you're really into how Robert Altman likes to flesh out the nobodies in his films. In any case, this is an extremely well directed downer of a noir film filled with grey morality.



Fel-Temp-Reparatio
@Fel-Temp-Reparatio

So I've been watching a lot of old movies over the last few years, largely through laserdisc collecting, and I've made threads for my top 10 films of the 40s, 50s, and 60s, but there are other old films I think are worth watching and want to talk about. I made another thread for this, but I feel like that kind of thread might get a bit unwieldy if I let it get too big, so I think I'm going to start a new one of these every 10 films or so. Some of these films will be great, some will be flawed but interesting, and some will be complete messes that are compelling to watch for whatever reason.


Fel-Temp-Reparatio
@Fel-Temp-Reparatio

Two men on a whim decide to head down toward Mexico. They pick up a hitch-hiker only for him pull a gun on them. Turns out he's a serial killer who wants them to drive him to his escape route. A simple but extremely well executed noir thriller. William Talman is fantastic as the killer. The film is only 70 minutes, but with how much is packed into it, you might be surprised that what you watched was really that short.

And good news: this film is public domain, so it's very easy to find. I recommend this rather nice looking upload from the Library of Congress.



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I've gotten a good response to that top 10 1940s films I wrote the other day, so I'll probably make lists for the 1950s and 1960s soon. But in the meantime, I thought it might be a good idea to make a thread where I can just put my thoughts on other old films that are worth watching. Some of these are classics that barely stayed out of my top ten, some are flawed but still pretty good, and at least one I want to talk about is an engaging mess. I'll be posting about four films today, but I'll probably revisit this thread as I watch more films and make more top 10s.



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If your idea of a noir detective film involves a lot of old school witty, quippy dialogue dialogue from a clever detective, films like this are where that comes from. The script, partially written by William Faulkner, is a solid one, even if the plotting is kind of iffy. This is a very "fridge logic" film. Like it's well directed and paced, so it takes you from scene to scene in such a way that it feels like it flows at the time, but the day after I first watched this, I realized I couldn't tell you much about what the overall plot was. But if you're willing to put up with that for some great dialogue, great performances, and a generally iconic film? I recommend giving it a watch.


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I got this only knowing that it was a noir directed by Orson Welles, and when I watched it with a couple of friends, we kept coming back to one question: "What the fuck is this movie?" Orson Welles does his best attempt at sounding Irish as he sails a boat full of rich weirdos who talk and act like they came out of a hazy dream rather than real people. One of those guys repeatedly tries to get Orson to murder him. Welles was clearly going for something here, but as with most of his post-Kane films, the studio butchered it, doing heavy reshoots and cutting out big chunks, and whatever Welles' intentions were is lost, at least to me. But what's left is fucking bonkers. I was utterly captivated by this strange thing, trying to figure out both what it was doing and where it was going. It's not a good movie, and it's not really a bad movie night movie, but it's a strange, fascinating film that I'm glad I watched.


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This film made me wonder if I should check out more romantic comedies. Katherine Hepburn is a wealthy socialite who's about to get married, but her ex husband (Cary Grant) got invited over against her wishes, a reporter with little respect for her family or their position (Jimmy Stewart) forces his way into things, and then she has to decide whether to marry the asshole she was planning to or one of the two guys who matter. The jokes hold up surprisingly well, and you get to watch three legendary actors be compelling as hell together. Hepburn and Stewart have incredible chemistry together. If I extended my top 10 1940s films list, this would probably be number 11.


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A pair of mobsters hold a diner hostage, saying they're after someone who as far as anyone else knows, is just a gas station attendant. After that, a life insurance investigator looks decides to research just who he was, giving us a frame narrative and series of flashbacks reminiscent of Citizen Kane. This is based on a short story by Earnest Hemmingway, which takes up the first 20 or so minutes of the film. And if that were a short film by itself, it probably would have made my top 10. But they decided to expand it with the reporter segment, and I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, I feel like the ambiguity was part of the point of the short story and filling in the gaps makes it weaker. You can also tell that the style of the dialogue shifts to something a bit cheesier once they're out of Hemmingway's words. On the other hand, the new segments are themselves a good noir film. This is one of those films you often see on "top 10 noir" lists and the like, and it's worth seeing if you are getting into the genre.


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Marlon Brando's performance in this film is often considered the best in the history of American films. It is fantastic, as is pretty much everyone else's in this film. The famous "I coulda been a contender" scene might be one of the all time greatest scenes in film. Purely considering how much of a showcase a film is for acting, this might be the best film of the 1950s. And if you want to just enjoy this film as much as possible on your first watch, stop reading this post here and go watch it, because what I have to say after the break might ruin it for you.


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For some reason, no one ever talks about this middle part of the Dollars trilogy. It's easily a better film than A Fistful of Dollars, and you get the kinds of moments of greatness you'd expect of the team that next made The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Clint Eastwood and Lee Van Cleef are two rival bounty hunters after a group of criminals planning on a huge bank robbery, and you get the kind of over the top, stylized spaghetti western you'd hope for out of it. Lee Van Cleef is really good in this and had more range to work with than in the sequel where he plays a different character.


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Some of you might have been surprised not to see film about police corruption in my top 1950s film list. It's often considered one of the best pieces of film noir, one of the best films of the 50s, and Welles' best work after Citizen Kane. I agree that it begins and ends amazingly, but I feel like it has a lot of pacing issues between those points. That's probably due to this being yet another feature that the studio took out of Welles' hands and fucked up. There is a cut from 1998 that's based on Welle's notes, but that was sadly too late for laserdisc, so I haven't seen it yet. Maybe it'll change my mind when I eventually do. But in any case, the pacing issues don't ruin the film, and it's still worth watching even though it's not one of my favorites.

If you haven't seen this film, it opens with a three minute twenty second tracking shot that's one of the most impressive pieces of film making from the 1950s. And luckily, you can at least see that part on Youtube for free:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmYY5ZMXOY