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My PC is built on a Gigabyte Motherboard from 2012, I'm pretty sure it has outdated connectors and throwing parts at it would be just more of a headache than anything, hell it feels like my uneven 24GB of RAM is failing (haven't tested which stick yet, will try and have fun with that today) due to the bluescreens, so I'm wondering how much it'd be to build a mid range PC now with current parts based off a newer motherboard that's not deeply old and outdated.

It'd be nice to have a current PC with a case I don't hate. I don't even want RGB bullshit parts, just a PC that doesn't feel like an aging beast. Is a Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz processor still good? I know a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 is struggling badly with Starfield and I have an SSD. The only AAA game I'm interested in playing on the horizon is Stalker 2 so I don't need a new GPU and Starfield might just be choppy on any system tbh I have no idea.


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From checking this on userbenchmark, this old i7 is actually really commendable, only being ~20% slower than a 6th Gen i5 6600k or a 10th Gen i7 10750H laptop CPU on single core stuff.

i7s seem to age quite gracefully. I could see this 3rd gen probably doing really well for games up until around 2016-17ish where it'd start falling out of the mid-range.

You can very much still do a lot of things on smth like this, it's only really for new games it'll have fallen behind on things.

Well, if it helps remove anxiety, any case that features "ATX Form Factor" will fit about 85% of the motherboards out there, plenty of non-RGB cases on the market, too. i generally suck at giving advice for PC builds, unfortunately, plus budget is always a concern. but this ought to be a guide for ye: The minimum Specs for Stalker 2.

Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X or Intel Core i5-7600K
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Storage: 150 GB available space

Now, you might be able to pull it off as is with your current rig so long as your ram is still good as you've mentioned elsewhere. Usually min requirements are "somewhat stable" specifications.

but yeah, thing's showing its age but you've done a good job keeping it running thus far.

that does help I think, thank you. I'll have to remember that when browsing cases, hopefully brazilian retailers will include that name somewhere in the specs? I'm studying motherboards and new processors for now, will look into cases next just to get a rough idea of the price range. I didn't even consider the minimum specs as a guide.. I have 16GB of working RAM right now, gonna take out the 4GB sticks in case they were giving me trouble and incompatibility issues, so that's reassuring that stalker 2 would work on 8GB. maybe it'll run at low-medium settings and if that's the case I can live with that, I've experienced performance below 30 a lot of the time with starfield so I'm used to rough gaming I think if the rig can maintain that. you said you're not good at giving advice but I appreciate what you've given me though!

any place worth their salt would have "ATX" after what kind of case it is.. "midi tower, full tower", etc. (note those two things just refer to the physical size of the case, full towers tend to be.. big. )
Big Also: power supplies. There's plenty of calculators online that you can use to not only see if the one you have is up to snuff (generally it would be, btw.), but also whether you need to upgrade in that department too. Either way it might help you put your mind at ease.

ah yup, we did a ton of reading up on PC parts stuff earlier, we're currently planning on getting a mid case to fit a mATX asus board, gonna need DDR4 RAM and we're making a spreadsheet to keep track of things. Talked a bunch with friends who showed us some of those tools and nothing seems to be incompatible except the DDR3 RAM, our current 600W PSU should suffice for the "upgrades", which are mostly gonna be the new motherboard, case, RAM and ideally a new CPU, our old i7 is equivalent to an i3 of today, but we haven't gotten around to researching that part yet, nor the RAM prices.

If you'd want any assistance with coming up with a parts list or upgrade plan I, or I'm sure many other people here, will be able to help out.
If there's one thing I'd really recommend, it'd be looking into AM4 socketed cpus / motherboards since they're coming down in price a lot, but are still comparable to the newest stuff.
A combo of those two and 16gb of ddr4 ram will probably make just about the best value you can get for the upgrade and could just be a drop in replacement with all your already owned parts (depends on a few factors, but this can be calculated ahead of time)
If you go AM4, it's also possible to spend a bit less on the cpu now and be able to upgrade to a newer current generation one down the line later without replacing any other parts than the cpu.

heck I appreciate the offer, I've gotten a ton of useful information already through these posts, yours too. I'm not sure what an AM4 is or does but I've been looking into some intel motherboards with a z series chipset, feels like that'd be a decent one for futureproofing a potential new build (which I don't have a budget for but we can all plan for upgrades right). My current motherboard only has 4 DDR3 connectors, not sure why two of them are blue to be honest, so ideally if a new motherboard is compatible with my current RAM I can keep that and think of changing it all up later down the line like you said. processor's from 2012 and long discontinued, I'm curious what would be the best choice to upgrade from the aging 4 core 3.40 GHz i7 I have, there's a lot to read up on. I'll definitely think about spending less on a CPU because a lot of them are more expensive than the motherboards lol

This has turned out really realy really long, apologies ;-;

To break it down, AM4 is the "socket", essentially the hole on the motherboard your CPU sits into.
This is what dicates which CPUs you can use a motherboard with.

Intel uses a new one (*1) every CPU generation (roughly year), so my 2016 "LGA1151" socketed motherboard cannot fit anything newer than a 6th generation intel CPU.

AMD however is a lot more upgrade friendly, they released the AM4 socket in 2016 and are still making new CPUs that fit it eight years later (although there can still be some issues with putting super new CPUs in 2016 board, it's not wholey perfect).
Theoretically you would be able to to spend a little more on a nicer motherboard with an AM4 scoket and cheap out on your CPU with an eye to get a nicer one when time & money permits.

As for trying to keep the RAM, I think the highest year you will be able to still find DDR3 RAM support is unfortunately going to be 2015 (5th Gen Intel) or whatever the latest AM3 CPUs are. (*2)

Lastly, on your current motherboard the colours indicate what "channels" your RAM is in. By putting them on the same channel, you get a bit faster performance due to computer wizardry. You'll have to look up the manual for your motherboard to figure out if they need to be in the same colour, or the alternating colours next to each other to get this benefit.

*1 Intel sometimes reuses the socket, but it's incompatible between generations. This is highly confusing for no good reason.

*2 DDR4 RAM has thankfully came down in price a lot, so limiting yourself to these older CPUs may not be worth the convinience in not having to replace that too.
I like [Userbenchmark.com] (https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Intel-Core-i7-3770/Rating/1979) for comparing CPUs as it breaks it down into a fairly simple "this CPU is 20% cooler than this other CPU at computer" (*3), which can be useful for considering what is actually worthwile cause I don't know how to interpret the GHz or etc.
This site isn't so useful for finding a CPU, but if you were looking to buy one used, it'd let you know how much of an improvement you're getting for the price.

*3 (that's right, I put a an addendum in my addendums, I'm so sorry)
For most games the single core performance is going to be the most important stat, as very few games can use more than a single core

I appreciate all the information, I think... I'm going with an Asus Intel Mother Board, even though AMD might be more friendly for upgrading. I think if I can get an i5 processor that's gonna be way better than my current i7 which is Old, the board I was looking at has been called a good "entry level" board by some reviews, it's an Asus Prime H610M-E D4, DDR4, Socket LGA1700, seems like the H series chip set is probably more than enough for my purposes, and it's DDR4, so sadly I'm gonna need non DDR3 RAM I'm guessing.

Ah interesting, when I plugged my RAM back in I just stuck them next to each other not even considering the colors, might switch that around before I close up this case. Absolutely no idea where the box and manual from 2012 are, I think I might just take a guess and plug both on the blue connectors.

will have to bookmark that benchmark tool for use later when I start looking into processors and RAM, ty! I'm at the moment thinking about the case and since that mother board I was eyeing is mATX, I'm curious if my Nvidia 970 card would fit fine in an mATX case, more research needed in that area since I'm probably not gonna be able to afford a whole new, better GPU anytime soon on top of everything else.

also side note, but you put a space between your [] and (), that's why it didn't work. I think markdown works in comments just fine last I tested it.