Imperious

Higher than God lost in the enmity

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Hello! You can call me Cypher, I'm going to try and use this space as mix of my fandom interests as well as a place to post my essay long rants and maybe some other writing I get up to.


smuonsneutrino
@smuonsneutrino

I think there is a disconnect that players willingly choose games where death being on the table is an important part of their core design and then don't follow along with that key design choice (D&D being the biggest and most obvious example). Now, D&Default is a huge contributor (esp. considering D&D's relative lethality), but RAW in 5e even a total party defeat kills on average less than half of characters. Between that and how healing magic works in that game, death is honestly pretty rare unless you actively got yourself into the situation or your GM really fucked up (and even then there are plenty of weird outs you can go for, this is a game where ghosts and Hell are objectively real).

My hottest take on the subject is that the lack of blindside deaths is a very specific literary constraint. It can be a good constraint, and in linear fiction I especially agree that it is reasonable, but to remove that uncertainty and danger from TTRPGs that include them RAW is to actively choose not to explore something the medium is uniquely suited for, and that choice needs to be justified. I am not saying that the justification needs to be deep, and can just be "I don't like it". But it does need to be there.


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in reply to @smuonsneutrino's post:

This is so well-put and not something I'd thought about a lot! I think GMs who don't really want blindside death to be a stake should just, like. Stop introducing enemies who fight to kill to begin with. 5e is designed so you can choose to dispatch people nonlethally for free, and it's weird that more enemies don't take that option. I think choosing to make a world in which even the bad guys would prefer not to kill needlessly is a cool creative decision!

like you said, though, 5e probably still isn't the right system for it.