JK-Darkside

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Big nerd who likes weird games and anime, writes for Hardcore Gaming 101


Thinking on an old post that asked if BG3 was about anything and at the time I said not really. Larian's stories often feel like a collection of ideas that don't really weave into each other, besides maybe one or two clever ideas that don't really seem to mean much in the grand scheme of things. Like, it's sort of all half formed stuff.

But thinking more on it, it's pretty clearly about cycles of abuse, with all of the origin characters and even two of your other companions having stories about this, and the core villains all are the products of abuse or are just monstrous abusers. Even the BG1 and 2 returns are bent around for this reason, thus why SPOILER and SPOILER have sort of been rewritten in this continuity to have no redemption arc or vague gesturing that said arc was aborted.

The one exception, the one truly baffling exception, is Gale.

He's just, like, a huge dumbass who makes bad decisions. Even in his darker character arc, he doesn't become an abuser, and is not the victim of abuse. Heck, he probably had the happiest life of all the cast before the plot happened until he did a headass thing. He's just a wizard with a lot of smarts and no sense and it doesn't weave into any other part of the narrative on a thematic level, but does add texture to the group dynamic and has his own interesting story going on.

And that is weird and bugs me.


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I dunno I find his relationship with Mystra very questionable. He never says exactly how young he was when it started but I get the feeling it was pretty young. And she was literally his teacher from childhood!

No, that's leftover weirdness from the early access script, like Wyll hating goblins. It was clearly not the focus of his story, even if things started off in a questionable place (which I don't think was the intent). Gale's flaws are not the results of trauma, but his own ego, to the point that an ending added later had him become the god of ambition.

If his story matched the pattern, he'd have an active abuser or have severe flaws related to trauma.

He definitely acts from a place of abuse, though. He spends the first half of the game fawning to get back on his abuser's good side after she cut him loose. Once he accepts that dying to earn her favor is not the right move, he does a huge emotional turn and starts to express anger about the way she treated him. This anger is what pushes him to pursue godhood. He tells the player that the way gods treat mortals isn't fair, and he wants to change that. To me, he ultimately becomes a god in order to become powerful enough to be safe from Mystra; to be untouchable by her and no longer tied to her realm and her grace. Whether he accomplishes his stated goals is another question entirely lmao

I agree that his plot isn't as tidy an abuse plot as the other characters, but if we view it through the lens of abuse, the interpretation is easy to make.

That interpretation doesn't work because Gale's happiest endings have him humbling himself to said god, which the narrative seems to mostly side with, even their one questionable decision now being a happy but tragic possible outcome (Gale sacrificing himself). Heck, she even tries to cure him of becoming a monster.

The intent clearly does not paint her as an abuser or Gale as a victim of anything besides his own ego.