one more cute disaster… it’s hard here in paradise
what's up all you cool (U.S.-based) gamers, be sure to "headshot" an email to arbitration-opt-out@discord.com by march 27th1 to not forfeit your ability to "pwn" them in court when they inevitably screw us all over 😎🕹️👾
Note that this arbitration clause only applies in the US - non-US residents shouldn’t need to opt out. But if you’re American, you should consider it.
obviously this is some shit fuck, but why do they even provide a way to opt out? this sounds like a loophole to do some barely legal shit fuck
From a blog post on the original arbitration clause in 2018, their reasoning:
We think that people can disagree on whether or not arbitration is good in general or whether or not the class action system is one that is beneficial; we don’t think it’s completely black and white. In fact, we’re very interested in how Europe is approaching implementing class action lawsuits, as their approach may mitigate the issues that the United States faces with them.
Because we don’t think it’s black and white, one of the things that we’ve implemented (which some of our competitors do not), is to allow you to opt out of this clause completely.
I suppose I can see that reasoning, but I don't get why they have a time limit on opting out.
That sounds like it would make too much sense (from a legal standpoint) and actually the default is supposed to be we are all screwed forever (in perpetuity) so that ten days after we die, they will own our corpses and make them dance (puppetry clause) to whatever tune makes them the most G-Dollars (space money of the future state)
I do wish there was a good discord alternative, with twitter slowly falling apart it's becoming a lot of people's primary (and only) online point of contact.
Emails are good but IMs are also important. I'd like an alternative that's at least a step better than telegram.
i use matrix with any of my friends who are willing to put up with it but god does it suck
a lot of it depends on which client you use though, right? nheko is still somewhat buggy but it's qt instead of electron which for me is a massive improvement
it depends on the combination of your server, their server, your client, and their client. nheko lets you input custom emotes that you uploaded from fluffychat (albeit with different syntax), which at least display in element desktop and element web, but element mobile won't render them at all. your friend embedding an element "live gps location widget" into the group chat while they're driving over to meet up with you just spams your fluffychat with 'unknown event' notifications every minute and makes the room take longer to load as the clients have to decrypt all the location update events only to ignore them. good luck getting a voice/video call to work that isn't "uhh let's just try jitsi meet instead." your friend suddenly stops being able to decrypt your messages because one of your homeservers changed something and nobody can figure out what. the list goes on
I think the deadline is April 26th actually, they want you to send an opt-out email within 30 days of March 27
Ok, I'm sorry, I am too full of adhd to be able to process this much text - would someone be able to explain to me what this means and what the issue is?
it's broken down in a couple comments on this share https://cohost.org/jeroknite/post/1119674-can-someone-explain#comment-f64a26f8-0297-4f68-9235-6af74d46914c
yes i would also like to know what this implies about discord's future behavior and shit
I don’t know that it implies anything about Discord specifically. A lot of American companies have these clauses now
Basically it means otherwise you and Discord agree you’re not allowed to sue them or join a class action lawsuit, and instead have to use a private arbitrator
Why is it even legal to fucking do this? What an asshole law. How fucking stupid. If judges were actually rhetorical or moral arbiters of the law something like this could never happen, because it is bald-faced nonsense. I SUGGEST WE (metaphorically) SET FIRE TO THE LEGAL SYSTEM FOREVER, ANARCHY 420!
Holy shit, I am a little bit high and lil bit drunk, and I cannot process this. WHAT am I supposed to do here, and how long do i have to avoid the consequences of not having done yet??? Why does every organization become this under capitalism, and how do I kill 'em all (metaphorically, in a legal sense) so help me God (also metaphorical, you are my sisters, brothers, and cousins, and that spells God IME {In My Eyes}) ????
