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A thing I can't stop thinking about

So there was this established scene of personally crafted, artistic bots. This scene is being forcibly terminated by capital. (Or shuffled to Mastodon, at least, which is fine from my perspective but definitely reduces their reach.)

and at the exact same time, ChatGPT et al are bringing a new generation of corporate-sponsored, vaguely oppressive bot interactions into our lives (strictly-controlled by the model-"owning" corporation, often passed off as the work of actual humans, built on a mix of exploitation of low-paid labor & unpaid commercial expropriation of other people's copyrighted work).

So there was a human-scale version of the thing that brought joy, and an impersonal-scale version of the thing that brings misery, and the first is being shut down at the same time the second is being introduced into our lives borderline by force, and these two things aren't being done by the same wing of capital or for linked reasons but they're both being done by capital and somehow it lined up that they're happening simultaneously

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in reply to @nora's post:

v21
@v21

people can always find a way... but there's a limit to the efforts i want to go through to build something that builds value on Twitter's platform

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lexi
@lexi

also, im not logged into twitter rn so ill mention it here: in the thread you mentioned that twitter auth is broken and that people cant see the source, but you could do a verification thing like keybase does it where you have to tweet a uuid or something to verify that you are associated with a twitter id

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eladnarra
@eladnarra

I wonder if they are as unconnected as they seem — isn't Elon a funder of Chat GPT? (Not to go all conspiracy theorist, just... I dunno I kinda just assume all super rich capitalists are colluding somehow to make even more money.)

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Video-Game-King
@Video-Game-King

I'd also argue that they're connected, but more in an industrial sense. Search engines like Bing and Google deploying chatbots so you don't have to click through to other sites to get the information you want (and allowing those sites to siphon off time spent - thus ad revenue generated - from said search engines), Musk killing the fun Twitter bots in a desperate attempt to monetize absolutely every goddamn aspect of the site he's stuck owning, the whole Silicon Valley Bank fiasco - you can very easily read all of these as symptoms of the tech industry finally collapsing in on itself.

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Osmose
@Osmose

There's certainly collusion (like that time all the major tech companies were making executive level agreements to not poach workers from each other in an effort to suppress wages) but by and large there doesn't have to be because the incentive structure is such that when you see your competitors either working on a new thing or suppressing an old thing, it is almost always the optimal move in terms of profit to assist in suppressing or jump in to build your own version of the thing. There's no need to collude because you're always trying to do the shittiest thing possible to make money by default.

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vectorpoem
@vectorpoem

capital loves to enter spaces where people have been fooling around making cool little things to make each other laugh, and turning them into Markets and throwing a $100 bill on the ground waiting for people to start fighting, until a few years later it's become a full on thunderdome where people pour out their labor to eke out a living while the house rakes in absurd profits. though i guess in this case it was more capital kicking everyone out of the club so that theoretical important business guests could come in and make money, who of course are not going to show up and the club will be a ghost town in a year's time.

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