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in reply to @zip's post:
- written by someone with an investment/interest in a competing product
It's not really a bad faith reading when the owners themselves have recognized the faults with the TOS?
It's just we have confidence they won't abuse the powers currently granted by the TOS and they do have plans to amend them.
It's not just rahaeli from Dreamwidth that had criticisms.
I think we can recognize cohost is a fantastic platform by well intentioned owners while also pointing out its flaws.
I suspect this post is not referring to @mcc's good-faith criticism of the TOS (or similar), but rather the many-pages-long mastodon thread that was posted recently by lori@hackers.town which, among other things, characterized staff talking about their disabilities publicly as a "lack of boundaries"
Oh I had not heard about that at all
Every time I heard people talk about it and reference "a competitor" i keep thinking they're talking about rahaeli's threads on Twitter, because many people said the same about rahaeli who ran Dreamwidth. But Dreamwidth really isn't a competitor at all and is only vaguely in a similar space, so I always found that to be a disingenuous attack. Now it makes a lot more sense that people were talking about something completely different entirely.
EDIT: LMFAO I loaded the full thread to ctrl+f for "boundaries" (just to double check it wasn't the same one) and twitter rate limited me
That rahaeli guy has some serious issues. I don't care if he has conflict of interest or not, that thread is a hours-long gish gallop of legal bad faith.
The points they raised about the TOS were largely accurate and were enough for Cohost to take action. Trusting the owners of Cohost is fine and well but if it were any faceless corporation with terms that disastrous it'd be another story. They probably could have been a lot more polite about it but the criticisms were genuine.
For what it's worth, I think the owner of Hive did this same exact thing way back when people were first pushing for Hive, and others gave Cohost as an alternative.
At least I think I remember that being the case
Hive had a lot of the same TOS issues and lack of DMCA agent lol
just learning about that thread and that would explain why an acquaintance who wants me to join hackerstown had the most baffling things to say to me when I told them I'm using cohost.
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I haven't read it myself but from the sound of things I'm inclined to agree.
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Yeah I'm not sure where that idea comes from at all. I was drawn here by the zero-tolerance policy on transphobia myself.
I didn't talk about the ToS at all (unless you think that includes the code of conduct) and if the post is about me then it's kind of a joke to frame it as "I want people to go to Twitter instead" since I...don't and largely left Twitter myself.
I also think you're misconstruing my point but I'm done arguing about it at this point.
(Edit: reading further down sounds like you just decided to involve me and OP didn't intend that so yeah I'll leave it there)
Yeah this wasn’t about you, and honestly I didn’t expect this to blow up out of my own circles.
No worries, I had this happen on Twitter once where I made a joke about some YouTube thumbnails and it blew up and five billion people yelled at me for not crediting the YouTuber. I wasn't thinking about crediting the YouTuber when I expected 3 people to fav it and move on.
It has yeah, and most of the issues pointed out have been ironed out, although some still remain which mcc pointed out.
Remember the divide. There are programmers and workers, and then there are the powerful rich people in whom true intelligence lies. Only billionaires know what they're doing. Only the highest class has valid opinions on proper social network creation.
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oh for sure, it's called a goof and I sure didn't expect it to get rebugged to this extent lol
this isn't really about any one post in particular so much as, like, my general sense that people are expecting instant perfection from a small site in a context where most sites in the field are overtly worse on purpose. sure it's not fully fair of me. i'm kinda surprised this reached escape velocity.
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