Librarianon

Honestly, aside from maybe VRChat or Beatsaber, I have yet to see a real killer app in the VR space that would convince a casual game player like my sister or dad into getting a headset. I honestly think that it might take a theoretical Half-Life 3(even after the crazy effort that was put into Alyx) to get over the hump, and that's in the enthusiast space. My honest opinion is that a lot of mainstream devs are keeping themselves boxed in by the current hot genres to create something innovative that could make for an exciting product.

it is amazing how bad sony fucked it with the psvr 2 with one simple decision, not to support original psvr games

i'm not a developer or anything but it kinda seems like to me that the wheel did not need to be reinvented on how the psvr 2 interacts with a ps5

https://www.uploadvr.com/major-pico-layoffs/

I'm just glad for all the VC money that's driving down the price of high resolution microOLED so i can finally have my todo list permanently in my field of vision while I am still able to work

Endoparasitic VR looks like the first VR game I've seen past Beat Saber and Half Life Alyx that looks like it is something that should be in VR, rather than a VR imitation of another experience?

this entirely checks out imo. at the same time though kind of wild to not see Volvo's plans enumerated with all the other companies. real deadbeat dad energy coming off of gaben rn

you may be interested to know that nearly ALL the VR-exclusive games in this year's IGF - which there's actually a pretty decent number of - are Quest 2 exclusives. Quest 2 specifically. No other headsets supported

It’s so frustrating. We were an early adopter of VR with the first HTC Vive, but aside from the occasional “Hey let’s play mini golf with the one other friend who has a headset” moment, it collects dust for months/years at a time. We’ve had enough Holy Shit moments with VR to know it is capable of offering incredible gaming experiences. But every headset manufacturer is dropping the ball simultaneously, and we’re so worried for VR gaming’s future.

Sad if true. There’s a lot of really good stuff in the VR space.

I keep hearing about a handful of cool games in the VR space, but it's hard to justify the costs (both monetary and finding the space for it) to get some current generation of headset, especially when there's not seemingly a good affordable unified place to play all of them, and especially not when VR manufacturers seem determined to not create any expectation of continuity or compatibility. The space just seems like kind of a mess.

This is a bummer to read, because I've been low-key thinking about getting a Quest 3 or similar. I kinda believed in VR after having some real fun with the PSVR, but haven't really mustered the will or wherewithal to commit to a new headset yet.

The thing that told me consumer VR was in a slump was that everyone I know who has a Quest 2 bought it secondhand off the facebook marketplace. Including me. To a large number of consumers, there either 1) isn't enough to justify the price tag or 2) there isn't enough to do once you get it.

Honestly the thing that's gonna kill VR is that it's fundamentally a niche technology for niche applications, and companies failing to realize that have managed to completely run it into the ground. Luckily that means it'll always stick around as a niche, but the costs of game dev are gonna need to get a lot more sustainable for that niche to get the development it deserves.

say what you will about steve jobs, but he never would have allowed something as dork-ass as the vision pro to be revealed like that

it was cautionary when all my PS Move wands died because i didn't babysit their batteries all year. it was on thin ice when someone (not even sure who) patched out support for my PC to HDM streaming solution, already a pain in the ass in its own right. it was on life support when i got caught in a login loop after meta rebranded and nothing anyone could do could log me in to my own device. it was dead and buried the day a hot person asked me if she could use it in (let's just say) a situation where that would be very fun and one hour later nobody could figure out how to fix the login loop issue. i don't need to point at things that might be interactive that badly, it turns out

god i miss The Under

I sure do own a device that is mostly capable of playing a pretty good rhythm game with great mod support, and one of Valve's best single player games for the 4th time, and almost nothing else that justifies the inconvenience and discomfort.

I worked on a VR game (from other suns) funded by oculus prior to their brand name change a little later, I don't know how profitable any of these kinds of games were but that short period of time felt like a soft revival of the mid-scale game project thanks to the new hardware avenue. the stuff that came out of that time is still incredibly cool

with the big industry players losing interest in funding original game development, and valve's "if you build it they will come" mindset that ignores the financial risks of indie VR development (look at how much that section of steam has dried up in new releases), that time is unfortunately over and the utility of the hardware is limited to a small handful of the standout games—your beat sabers, vrchats, pavlovs, etc

if the new software isn't there, then it'll remain as totally niche hardware. which isn't a bad thing for my social circles who still check out new vrchat content from time to time, but it means my expensive as fuck index headset goes totally unused outside of that

here's every application of VR technology pitched this time around:

1. PS2 eyetoy but you have to wear a thing
2. the least convincing purported human is imprisoning you in a meeting
3. microsoft office but blurry and your arms get tired
4. this could've been a normal first person shooter
5. you'd prefer to be a fox with three tits

only (5) has anything to offer and tech capitalists are too afraid to monetize that

As someone who has an Index, it's impossible to find a comfortable setup, the controllers are annoyingly finicky and uncomfortable, and it takes up like half the outlets in my room. I really enjoy VRchat and Skyrim VR, but man are there no good headset options...