Couldn’t have said it better myself, especially in the last paragraph. That shit has always weirded me out, and I say this as someone who benefits from the “gifted kids are actually the next step in evolution” narrative, or whatever stupid, romanticized shit these people are going on about.

i've seen it too. its giving a little too much Magneto

Yep. It's still eugenicist, it's just eugenics in favor of a different (...arguably) set of people. We've gotta be for all of us instead.

That second post.. What even is their point?
If you are something that most people aren't, then that means you stand out from the norm. Or, in other words, you diverge from what is seen as typical.

Making it sound like one is better than the other is just insulting to everyone who doesn't fit in that neat little box. Neat little box that doesn't even include the majority of neurodivergents btw.

autistic nationbuilding, my beloathed

That is because it is the same fucking shit that led hans asperger to decide that some autistic kids were better used than culled

it is fash shit. Yeah

I mean, that's exactly the thing elon musk believes, and that's why he's so thoroughly awful

In my experience, adults applied "gifted kid" or the r-word to an autistic child, and which one got used was entirely determined by social class. Born to rich parents? Your eccentricity must be because you're too smart to handle. Born to poor parents? Well...

very similar weirdos do this with ADHD too and i hate it so much. these are just special brain wankers doing astrology with randomized excerpts from blogs that misread the DSM, it's so many degrees away from sensible or helpful it makes me want to yell at them. fucking miss me with this shit

This is why I like the term "neurodiversity" when talking about things in general because it emphasizes that there aren't "right" or "wrong" or "better" or "worse" ways of being, just different, and that it's something to celebrate.

as somebody who did really well as a "gifted kid" until mid-late high school, BLECCH. I've heard enough about "intelligence" enough to be kind of repulsed by the idea, and even the word, despite never having a solid grasp on what it's supposed to mean. (to preemptively clarify, only recently started to accept that the one random diagnosis of "aspergers" I got at one point may not have been a fluke) also feel some things about ADHD that another commenter brought up like, "why am I supposed to be good at multitasking?" I see this shit and I feel like I'm becoming an "antivillain" (whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean in relation to "antihero"). like, I'm told I've achieved things, but it feels so hollow when I can't say with any certainty that my work, etc. has made anything better. trusting in processes in the vain hope I would "get" it someday, turns out that was a stupid framework. like, I pretty much don't give a shit if you have "200 IQ" or whatever if all you do with that is become a finance bro and/or someone worse than that. Something something, "when did intellect become sexier than actual compassion and enthusiasm?"

I am self-diagnosed autistic. I did have the autism where it got me labeled as a genius, the smartest kid in class etc. All that ever did was leave me with fucking PROBLEMS. Do you realize how far it set me behind when I couldn't translate that early success into actual success navigating the adult world? There was big frustration not being able to get the hang of things that are intuitive for most people despite having an easy time picking up on calculus. I assume this is the case for most autistic people with similar "genius kid" experience like there's no way you can be that good at school without lacking in other areas. Iunno if the examples above were those "genius" types, but if they were, this shit just reads as insecurity and using a form of white supremacy to explain their way out of it.

As something in the overlap between the two categories, having a lifetime of people ignoring this doll’s real, deep problems or just expecting it to Gifted Kid them out of existence because it’s supposed to be smart and better is not any more charming for it than it is for OP. This rhetoric sucks and is harmful for everyone but a tiny handful of Acceptable Autistic Folks.

When i was a kid one of my teachers in my elementary school told my parents that I should be screened for "high IQ".
They did, and I was indeed diagnosed at like age 7 with a IQ high enough for my mom to decide to enroll me into Mensa.
Well, despite all this, i've spent the entirety of my school years just barely getting by, constantly on the brink of failing my grades. In fact I actually had to repeat one year of school because of it.
The only reason I didn't end up in a special-ed class or worse was because i had the luck of having awesome parents who made themselves my advocates in the face of the school system. And that probably is almost entirely due to social class factor. Had I not been lucky in that regard....
But even with that luck, one of the things that durably scarred me mentally was to see and hear the constant disappointment from people around me, including my parents. "You're so intelligent! And yet you're constantly failing. If you worked better, if you worked more... If you were less lazy."
I'll never forget my dad telling me "Ypu have an amazing toolbox in your head. Why don't you use it?".
And being brought up from a young age with all these ideas about what I ought to be, compared to what I actually was? It fucked me up.
It's only once i reached high school and got sent to a class where they put people who don't have the required level to get in a better class that I finally internalized that I was as broken as everyone else around me.
It was so liberating. I could finally start to actually relate to my comrades.
I was finally free.

Good post, I've been thinking a lot about how the Autism Supremacy thinking thing is just another way for (from my observations, mostly white) autists to engage in bigotry and supremacist thinking without going Fully White Supremacist. No thank you! I'm not better than anyone because I'm autistic, thanks!

Honestly, saying shit like, "Perhaps this group deserves human rights because they are magically more Gifted And Talented than the mundane majority and their special powers will save us from ruin!" is weird and harmful, and I'm tired of pretending that it isn't.

Multiple people who have higher support needs have spoken at length about how this is just a covert form of Aspie supremacy, and even though I am a former gifted kid with lower support needs, I'm still not a fan because the standards put into place by this mentality are borderline unattainable even for me. Why do I need to be a super-powered savant just to deserve basic rights and respect? You sure don't hold NT people to that standard!

Support from the everyone-told-me-i-was-gifted-until-it-crashed-really-hard-in-high-school type of kid that I was.

This shit pisses me off so much, not only for all the points you made, but also because back when I was going to school, close enough to the 80's I suppose, they didn't put neurodivergent kids in the 'gifted classes', they put them in the remedial classes.