Masakuni

The little blue dragon!

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(34/M) Little blue dragon whelp, wearer of many hats, enjoyer of things including but not limited to video games, goth music, sports, art, adorable things, cartoons and anime and other shows, etc.


cathoderaydude
@cathoderaydude

a couple years ago i bought some paperclips online.


cathoderaydude
@cathoderaydude

Someone asked in the comments "can't you just go into any store and buy paper clips" and my response was "yeah and they'll all be fraudulent garbage because brands don't exist anymore." To make my point, I went down the "stationary" aisle at Safeway while I was buying salad fixins and grabbed some extremely respectable looking clips from Charles Leonard Inc. - headquarters Hauppauge, NY., but made in Taiwan.

I am not remotely a "hurr hurr made in america" shitwad, but making paperclips is so fucking easy that there is absolutely no reason to do it overseas. If what they're selling is simply bent steel wire, then the cost of shipping can't make sense versus making it here. The US manufacturing core is obliterated, I'll grant you, but we make steel, wire is one of the fundamental primitives output by that process, and a machine to bend wire into paperclips is simple, cheap, and will run unattended for 200 years with only a weekly oiling. There is no reason to import paperclips. If they're made of steel.

Sure enough, the CLI ones are not. I could tell as soon as I picked one up; I think it's chromed aluminum, probably because that weighs less, and thus costs less to ship. It can be bent several times, so it's not something like zinc, but it's certainly too lightweight, it doesn't make the right sound when you tap two together, and - wonder of wonders - the plating started flaking off all over my hands.

The ACCO ones are the right weight, they make the right sound, and they don't fucking disintegrate. Clips


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in reply to @cathoderaydude's post:

There are definitely fancy paperclip companies out there, like prestige Japanese pen companies making paperclips they sell in 10-packs for $7 that are so nice you never ever want to use them.

It seems like it's that or the somehow-still-a-ripoff cancer wire.

Oh darling please, take a rubber-sheathed banana shaped paper clip with you! I insist! What good is living rich if you don't let your friends and neighbors indulge every now and then? This two bedroom apartment is just so spacious, I simply delight in entertaining your good company.

Carbon Steel laser etched designer paperclip, NRA Good condition. Minted in Spring 2008, mild wear. Comes with the box and paper manual, FFL transfer required, serious offers only. MSRP $0.015 adjusted for inflation to a reasonable $300.

Our local office supply place went out of business so now we order everything from Amazon, which sucks, and has led that that exact scenario! Although we also got some rectangle Fake Post-It Notes that have the sticky edge along the "wrong" side and they've actually been surprisingly useful, so we purposely re-order those. I'm sure the next batch will be "normal" and not useful, though.

can't you just walk into a store and buy some alright paperclips? is that not a thing in the US? I'm only asking because I would never even think of ordering paperclips online, like the nearest supermarket probably has some, at least I bought staples there once

Every single sundry sold in a store is now from a non-brand and cannot be trusted. I was in office Depot the other day and every single product they had in the paper clip and other sundries aisle was office Depot brand, and visibly shitty. Thumbtacks with extremely sharp casting flash on the plastic part that choose your fingertips up, that sort of thing. Even if I bought some of their clips and they were okay, the next time I went to buy some I'm sure they would be shitty ones that break if you flex them. I wanted to find a reliable source of clips. Literally this is the purpose of a brand, there are just very very few actual brands left.

Staples are another particular thing, where I've practically given up on buying staples. Most of the time they snap while trying to staple, and that's if you're lucky enough that they didn't jam and break your stapler.

in reply to @cathoderaydude's post:

Hard agree! I get They (the manufacturer) think that maybe colour-coding is a useful distraction from the fact they are just using terrible metal that needs a coating. But they are wrong.

On the other paw, I DO like the plastic-coated ones as "reset button activators" in the lab at work. The colours help me find one of the (many) partly-unbent clips I have sown about.

in reply to @cathoderaydude's post:

This is reminding me of Andy Rooney ranting (many) years ago about everything getting worse, saying, "you can't tell me razor blades last as long as they used to. How in the world do even make razor blades that don't last as long? That must take real technical know-how!"

I kind of wonder if anywhere out there, there's a list of like... sundry brands that actually exist and don't suck, for the ACCOs of like, clothespin hangers or whatever? This feels like something that surely exists but is buried under eight fulms of AI-generated search engine garbage

The trick is that 99% of the brands that didn't suck made a decent product until they got generally known for making a decent product and some customer loyalty, at which point they got bought out by a holding company out to make a quick buck by liquidating all the original production lines and selling the cheapest possible shit under the brand name until all its customers flee and it folds. This still happens to every manufacturing company that hits a moderate threshhold of success, so the good product recommendation from even a few months ago is probably now a trap.

If it's a thing a certain niche of people really get weird over, like guns or chisels or roller bearings, there's probably some little online forum of obsessives who've researched and documented the year or serial number ranges where a given make was good, but once that knowledge leaves that circle you're looking at a $400 Special Bearing and every even vaguely similar-looking object under the sun being sold as a counterfeit