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Roll for Hole 🐺🌕@MeldritchHorror4/23/2024, 7:45 AM

fionn @6MY

cohost dot org @staff4/22/2024, 8:29 PM

artist alley is now live!

happy monday! artist alley is now live for everyone to see!

we don’t have a ton to say about it other than that we’re really excited about the listings that are there now (we’ve already all learned about a bunch of new stuff just during the preview period), and we’re really excited about the future of artist alley.

this is just an initial release; we’ll have some more improvements and changes coming over the course of this week and beyond. but for now, go check it out! buy a listing if you’ve got something to promote, check out the work being promoted already, have some fun with it.

thanks, as always, for using cohost! :eggbug:

#cohost corner #artist alley

fionn @6MY4/23/2024, 1:16 AM

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in reply to @staff's post:

Kara @kaara4/22/2024, 8:36 PM

if you have an idea for a tag please feel free to share it here or to support[at]cohost.org

ideally, please suggest tags for listings you want to buy yourself, not just tags you think would be neat

it's ben @yotsuben4/22/2024, 10:41 PM

would a "#podcast" tag make sense? I was about to nab a listing but wasn't sure what slot a podcast promo would fit into, aside from maybe "#games," since the pod in question is about games.

ty!

porl!@porl4/23/2024, 2:26 PM

Speaking as a customer or whatever you wanna call it, I would definitely be up for a podcast tag

Zak @corpocracy4/23/2024, 4:35 PM

Thirded. I am considering posting my podcast to Artist Alley. It would be nice to have a hashtag!

Boyks @Boyks4/23/2024, 7:25 PM

Would also like to see this.

will💀@whack4/22/2024, 8:37 PM

thanks for making artist alley!

katherine morayati @morayati4/22/2024, 8:40 PM

looks great, thank you!

is it currently possible to schedule a listing for a specific week, or should I just hold off until that week?

jae @jkap4/22/2024, 8:43 PM

not yet, but we've gotten several requests for this and we're planning to add it

katherine morayati @morayati4/22/2024, 10:23 PM

sounds good :eggbug:

Miss Hell @MichelleDraws4/22/2024, 8:51 PM

So excited, already got my listing! When it says that artist alley is in a "pre-sale" period, what does that mean exactly?

jae @jkap4/22/2024, 8:55 PM

at this point we're technically out of the pre-sale period but not all of that copy has been updated yet. we'll be fixing it tomorrow!

Miss Hell @MichelleDraws4/22/2024, 8:58 PM

Ohhh ok, thanks for the speedy reply! <3

Michael Klamerus @Michael-Klamerus4/22/2024, 8:51 PM

This is great!

Phosphor [&]@bazelgeuse-apologist4/22/2024, 8:54 PM

I scrolled alllllll the way to the end, thank you everyone, I ate well today

What's the logic on which entries display in which order? (For example, do more recently submitted ads get shown first?) If there is logic, is there a way we can toggle to view oldest or newest first?

jae @jkap4/22/2024, 8:56 PM

pseudo-random with preference given to newer listings on collisions (these occur rarely)

Phosphor [&]@bazelgeuse-apologist4/22/2024, 9:17 PM

Ooh, thanks! Would it be possible to implement "view oldest" and "view newest"? The logic here is that I might want to read the entirety of artist alley, in which case I might want to start with oldest first (to catch them before they fall off) or newest first (to catch ones that have been freshly added).

That being said, I'm not sure on what schedule new ads are added. If it's something like, ads are rotated every week on Monday morning instead of as they come in, then sorting by submission time might be redundant?

Kara @kaara4/22/2024, 9:18 PM

the alley is live, not refreshed on certain days. new ads are added in as they are approved, and removed as they expire.

different kinds of ordering is something we could consider for the future

Phosphor [&]@bazelgeuse-apologist4/22/2024, 9:22 PM

I am already thinking of the alley as my third Cohost feed so ordering is something that would def be appreciated! :eggbug-smile-hearts:

Trinket!!@CatTrinket4/23/2024, 6:58 AM

Seconding this, would really like to be able to keep up with new listings hahah

Fluffies🐾 & ☉∇ ΘΔ Ⓥ @Fluffies5/1/2024, 2:48 PM

Same >w< We scrolled through all the listings!
While we understand that keeping expired listings around defeats the whole purpose of asking money for them, we get absurdly antsy about "what if I miss something reaaaaally cool!" (AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY COOL THINGS aaa)

naidje @naidje4/22/2024, 8:55 PM

I'd love a #streaming tag or something similar where I can promote my twitch streams and share my stream schedule.

locust @locust-breakfast4/22/2024, 9:07 PM

is there any plan to make these shareable? not sure if that breaks the premise, I just think things are cool and my peanut brain says "rebug"

@SamKeeper4/22/2024, 9:14 PM

yeah, echoing this, I've already seen a few things that made me wish I could reblog it with a "oh this seems like a cool project" comment!

oddstrangepenes transgaystrange @oddmerit4/22/2024, 9:29 PM

yeah i’d like a like button on these to save things for later. a little hard to bookmark stuff on the webapp on my phone

Phosphor [&]@bazelgeuse-apologist4/22/2024, 10:01 PM

I am also in favor of the ability to bookmark and link to specific ads

@waitwotno4/25/2024, 5:31 AM

:yeah: this too - being able to link to them as an individual post and being able to reshare them would be great

Acute Rabbit @AcuteRabbit4/22/2024, 9:08 PM

I have found many fun things at the alley. It's like some weird Wonderland. I love it. (I might start calling it Artist Wonderland. There is something magical about the page.)

Phosphor [&]@bazelgeuse-apologist4/22/2024, 9:21 PM

(I might start calling it Artist Wonderland. There is something magical about the page.)

This is EXACTLY the vibe. It's like a whole tertiary feed of neat stuff by actual people!

Kyle Labriola @kylelabriola4/22/2024, 9:16 PM

Looks great! I think this was a really good implementation of the whole "user ads" idea!

I dunno if you're taking suggestions, but i'd love to be able to control (on desktop) how many blocks appear horizontally. Right now on my desktop I see like 5-6 blocks horizontally at a time. It's a little visually overwhelming, it'd be cool to have a toggle to make it 3-4 blocks horizontally. Scrolling on the mobile version feels a little less overwhelming.

three genders in a wenchcoat @akhra4/22/2024, 9:18 PM

I assume it's supposed to be paginated somehow? can't find any sort of "next page" or "load more" and it's not auto-loading when I hit page end. when I add a filter there's stuff that's not in the unfiltered view, so I know I'm not just done with the list. Firefox on Android.

Kara @kaara4/22/2024, 9:23 PM

its infinite scroll!

three genders in a wenchcoat @akhra4/22/2024, 9:24 PM

not for me apparently! 😆

Kara @kaara4/22/2024, 9:24 PM

Hmm, can you send a few screenshots to support[at]cohost.org?

three genders in a wenchcoat @akhra4/22/2024, 9:36 PM

done!

three genders in a wenchcoat @akhra4/23/2024, 8:42 PM

just wanted to confirm it's fixed for me!

three genders in a wenchcoat @akhra4/23/2024, 10:55 PM

wait actually. okay that's weird. if I launch the app and immediately open artist alley from the menu, it works. if I o
follow the link from this chost, or use the menu while on this page, it doesn't?

(edit: I only tried each three times, maybe it's just low sample size on a more random issue?)

Melody þe Cat @jmelody4/22/2024, 9:29 PM

can't say mine is scrolling infinitely either. it loads 20 (by my count) items and when you hit the bottom that's it, no more seem to load. (also firefox android)

three genders in a wenchcoat @akhra4/22/2024, 9:40 PM

yep, likewise 20, pretty standard pagination count.

random thought... you don't happen to have the deduplicator userscript? that's why I'm using firefox to begin with, and while I don't see any way it should be relevant, software is the devil so we should check if it's a common factor 😛

Melody þe Cat @jmelody4/22/2024, 9:41 PM

i do not

three genders in a wenchcoat @akhra4/23/2024, 8:43 PM

fixed for me!

Melody þe Cat @jmelody4/23/2024, 10:13 PM

hmm. not fixed for me

three genders in a wenchcoat @akhra4/23/2024, 10:56 PM

wait heck it's only fixed if I go to it from the menu on the main feed, not the link here?!

@waitwotno4/25/2024, 5:32 AM

it still seems paginated if I scroll fast enough that I reach to the end of a page. Sometimes I'd have to back off and scroll a bit to get it to load the next page

Lex @Lexfeathers4/22/2024, 9:35 PM

Hell yes, this is so much fun to look through!

dix @DixMX4/22/2024, 9:56 PM

:eggbug-smile-hearts:

sirocyl @sirocyl4/22/2024, 11:17 PM

Will there be a public archive of Artist Alley listings? If not officially, is someone else allowed to keep a running archive of them?

lori @lori4/23/2024, 12:00 AM

What would be the incentive to pay for ads in that case? If you're already volunteering to look at the listings you could just go to the archive to see even more listings and people would only be paying once.

lori @lori4/22/2024, 11:58 PM

Vivaldi on Android, ads are repeating when the infinite scroll kicks in, had the same two ads 7 times before it loaded others, saw some other repeats after that as well.

Dragaroth @Dragaroths-hideaway4/23/2024, 2:02 AM

Soooo it already seems to be doing pretty welllllllll

necrose - glip @glitchedpuppet4/23/2024, 7:22 AM

i'd personally like if there were a way to view old listings after they expire, as i don't spend a ton of time online lately but do like looking through the ads and i would feel a bit sad to not be able to find something i'd seen before; i have no idea how this thing slots into the vision you guys have for artist alley though

overall though i like it and i'm happy to see it this week, i think it's a good idea and i got to discover some people through it who i'm happy to follow (I didn't realize they were on cohost)

Vertxsees @Vertxsees4/23/2024, 12:38 PM

beyond excited for this, huge congratulations to everyone getting this pushed live. Thank you for cohost!

Furufoo @Furufoo4/23/2024, 2:33 PM

How long is the review period supposed to last before a listing goes public? Does it take longer to approve is the buyer isn't from the US?

Setsune @Setsune4/23/2024, 4:35 PM

I was wondering as well, I'm not sure if mine could get approved any moment, or if the queue is weeks long. I bought in pretty late (the 20th), but I admit to being a little sad I didn't squeak in with the first batch.

Kara @kaara4/23/2024, 9:01 PM

we're reviewing every day, though maybe not every weekend day

Setsune @Setsune4/24/2024, 7:19 PM

That's understandable. I'll get an e-mail once it's confirmed, right? Or will it just show up if it's fine?

Edit: Just got my rejection. Apparently changing my Itch tags flipped a setting to enable Sensitive Content automatically, which DQed me from getting a SFW listing.

Marine @MarineHaddock4/23/2024, 6:42 PM

My first one is still under review after 19 hours but my second one was reviewed in under 20 minutes - not sure if they're diversifying (only approving so many of each tag) but it seems like a big difference in processing time

Kara @kaara4/23/2024, 9:01 PM

review is done manually by humans - in some cases if your ad comes in while we're reviewing it could be as short as 10 minutes. if you submit late night on friday when we've taken off for the weekend, it could take a day or two.

payment processing time primarily depends on the payment method, and approval cannot happen until your payment is processed. the main source of any slowness here would be direct bank debits like ACH, but sometimes it can just take a little while.

Cr4shMyCar @Cr4shMyCar4/23/2024, 2:36 PM

oh man I already love this. just scrolling through I see indie games, TTRPGs, commissions, a pokemon matchup calculator, web design services, howard the alien, and karl marx. this rules so much

🌷 doodlemancy 🌷@doodlemancy4/23/2024, 4:53 PM

artist alley is giving me a lil sales boost already!! :'D i hope this is a trampoline we BOTH successfully bounce higher on!!!

lou @rasalhage4/23/2024, 10:22 PM

i appreciate the inclusion of a "doing a bit" tag

@waitwotno4/25/2024, 5:19 AM

this is so cool, its like im at a con but without the people :)))
love that some have bought space just for the fun of it

@waitwotno4/25/2024, 5:36 AM

aaand I've reached the end :')
I've checked out a few things and have bought an EP for my car playlist!
So many good people on here.
Someone had commented here for an archive of ads and I'm :yeah: for that too

@waitwotno4/25/2024, 8:17 PM

Another thing that comes to mind is that I still wouldn't mind user generated ads in a public place. One of the gripes that I have with ads sometimes is that I tend to visit a page very quickly, so an ad would only register my interest once I had left the page. This means that when I revisit the page, I have to hope the same ad comes up again.
Artist Alley seems like a great way to revisit an ad, especially if you remember parts of it and thus means more chance to browse around.

mei 🌒&@ckie4/28/2024, 2:07 PM

aa i found the mos tamazing thing on it!! tysm cohost

dd @dunderella5/4/2024, 1:32 AM

this is super cool and a unique feature of this platform, thank you for implementing it!

Growconut @Growconut5/4/2024, 1:09 PM

Just a suggestion, it would be awesome to be able to bookmark artist Alley posts so we can easily flip through this that hooked our curiosity but we don't have the time/money to spend on just yet. Browser bookmarks obviously work but it would be far more convenient.

Kacey @kaceydotme5/26/2024, 7:14 AM

any idea when I can expect my listing to go live? I purchased it two days ago and it's still pending :/