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bruno
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I've seen a lot of people rightfully questioning why people were watching and giving money to this James Somerton guy, considering how... bad his videos were. Like watching a few minutes of his content evidences pretty clearly that he doesn't have much in the way of charisma, that his presentation of the subject matter was super bland, etc.

And a lot of people weren't just casually engaging with Somerton's work, they were subscribing to his Patreon or deeply invested in his Discord community. So it's not just, like, "oh people know this is garbage but they want some noise on in the background."

I think what's going on is that Somerton was making a quasi-passable imitation of better content, and Youtube was primed to reward that. Somerton didn't just plagiarize content, he also copied style. Like he even had the damn copy of Disney War on the table in one video. He did a lower-effort version of the aesthetics that a lot of video essayists employ – the props, the moody lighting, etc.

But the difference between him and the video essayists he was imitating is that he was uploading a lot more frequently. And I think that's the key: Somerton was basically making a surrogate product. There's not that much Lindsay Ellis video you can watch on YouTube. But if you watch it all, YouTube will suggest videos from slightly-worse creators. Consume enough of this material and you'll get James Somerton, and Somerton has a regular upload schedule and puts out a lot of videos, and at that point maybe you are not so discerning about the quality of the material because you're pursuing something that kind of reminds you of better creators, but is a lot more voluminous.

Like, the video essay game has gotten advanced over the last few years. Hbomb himself only uploads basically once a year now, and before she quit YouTube, Lindsay Ellis was going in the same direction of slower, bigger, more sophisticated videos before she quit YouTube. People are making feature-length documentaries. I have a pile of YouTube subscriptions that haven't uploaded in months, and I know those channels aren't dead, just working on some massive essay.

I think creators like Somerton and Illuminaughty were exploiting a niche borne out of this: that people want things that have the outward trappings of video essays (ie, stuff that doesn't immediately come off as thrown-together or vloggy) but at a volume that's simply not sustainable for a video essayist. And that constant volume makes their audience both parasocially bond with these creators more strongly (as we see with Somerton's very invested fanbase) and it kind of inures people to the low quality of the videos by sheer force of familiarity.


bruno
@bruno

I think there's also an element of just affinity fraud to this – Somerton portrayed himself as basically the only queer creator on YouTube, and a lot of the factoids he fabricated in his videos played up historical queerphobia. And when people view someone as part of their in-group, especially an in-group that feels like a besieged minority, their critical sense can turn off.


Bigg
@Bigg

So this is kind of a synthesis response/addendum to both the above and this post, both of which I think are 1. wholly correct and 2. very important additions to the conversation in the Somerton Aftermath. I think that, on the whole, exercising grace and understanding towards Somerton's now-former audience is the right thing to do. Intelligent, good-hearted people fall for grifts, scams, cults, etc all the time, it's hideously embarrassing and upsetting when it happens, and sneering at them is extremely unhelpful.

Now with that being said - I'd like to push back somewhat against wholesale absolution of Somerton's audience, particularly because it's very rare for grifts to be so swiftly and convincingly dismantled that their ENTIRE once-extremely-loyal audience is left effectively free of their influence. I think that, ironically, there's an excellent & unique opportunity here for advancing critical literacy in an audience whose interest in doing so unfortunately led them to James.

Todd in the Shadows's Somerton-misinfo-debunking video is useful here. If you're someone who previously enjoyed Somerton's content, I'll do you a solid and assume that you see yourself as a basically-morally-good person who is interested in learning, truth, and equality. So, ask yourself: why were these bizarre tangents salivating over Nazi physiques not worrying to you? Why weren't multiple instances of Somerton inventing hordes of Evil Straight Women Preying On Poor Defenceless Gays from whole cloth enough to raise your suspicions? Why did these nakedly-sinophobic lies, delivered against a bright-red background while wearing a fucking tang suit, not give you pause? These questions aren't intended to be "gotchas" that prove you're a bad person - rather, I think it'd just be useful to sit with them.

Twitter/Tumblr user 3liza had a very good thread that I believe has been lost following the nuking of their previous Twitter account, the thrust of which was this: one of the most important things to learn when creating your own work and digesting the work of others is that everyone possesses the capacity to do harm. (I recently encountered a very similar sentiment in this very good essay entitled Imposter/Abuser: Power Dynamics in Publishing by Sarah Gailey.) Even people you've liked for years! Even people you've KNOWN for years! Yes, even you and me! That capacity never goes away, no matter how nice a person you are or how much good work you've done - you can't actually bank good vibes to erase harm that you do. Your favs can, and will, hurt people who don't deserve it - maybe intentionally, maybe not - they'll release bad work, they'll be less-than-exemplary business partners, they'll be cruel lovers, they'll support bad causes, bad people, they'll cheat, they'll steal. It's inevitable! This isn't me saying "be hypervigilant and get your knives out at the first misstep", this is me stating the absolute necessity of understanding that the people who make the things you love are PEOPLE - imperfect, messy, people - who make mistakes or act with thoughtless cruelty or whose formerly-noble motivations for making the things they make might shift over time.

So, yes, the buck might stop with a dubiously-charismatic grifter who leveraged plagiarism, an aggressive content release schedule, and a yearning for queer community into a 30k/month payday. But let's also make sure to draw a pretty distinct line here, with the people he stole from and groups directly harmed by his rampant misinformation on one side, and the people who watched & supported him on the other. It's certainly true that he was the one poisoning the well, but a LOT of people kept drawing water from it, even after multiple instances of someone saying "hey, this water tastes funny. Also, isn't that my bucket?" HBG/TITS have, in addition to their enviable work in exposing Somerton as a fraud (and, in HBG's case, seeking to provide the victims of Somerton's theft with some level of renumeration), provided a large group with the opportunity to reflect seriously on the damage they did to themselves and their community by passionately supporting a grifter, and I hope they take it.


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in reply to @bruno's post:

Having seen the way some people talked about him before this, it also just seems that some people don't necessarily have the experience to distinguish between higher-quality "media crit" and something like this.

And yeah, like you say, keeping up the faster pace would drive people to watch it - and probably meant the algorithm was happier with it, too.

He was plagiarizing nearly all of it so I think a lot of it was legitimately good writing, just not his writing. But the presentation was noticeably a worse version of what other people were doing, and of course if you zoom out a bit, the hodgepodge of other people's papers that he was reading didn't add up to anything coherent.

Very much a mass produced version of stuff he considered succesful without understanding why, yeah.
But the success in creating a community with an entire discord and the "only queer creator" spiel cannot be ignored. Dude nurtured a space where the quality of his work was not as important as existing at all, and how much that meant to his audience.

Maybe he does have some marketing/business skills, after all.

Even if the recommendation algorithm doesn't actively prioritise those channels, just the fact that they upload more videos would make them appear in recommendations more often. If anything the algorithm would have to de-prioritize frequent uploaders to balance it out.

Yeah, I thought my favorite video essayist Jacob Geller had a high-volume release schedule, and he posts once a month. Once a week or daily uploads for channels that aren't groups seems like a huge red flag to me before, but now I am going to have much more scrutiny on the media I watch. You can't become an expert of a topic that some of these essayists try and explain in that short of time; shortcuts would always be taken, but now with AI the problem just gets worst with these content mills.

in reply to @bruno's post:

in reply to @Bigg's post:

But let's also make sure to draw a pretty distinct line here, with the people he stole from and groups directly harmed by his rampant misinformation on one side, and the people who watched & supported him on the other.

One of the people he stole from was someone who was a Patreon supporter. I may be misreading this part, but don’t think that line is as binary as you’re implying.

Genuine question: is it more likely there are enough instances of this specific kind of overlap to render my point invalid or is it more likely that this instance represents a bizarre, particularly-galling exception

It’s the most egregious example, but thinking about it more I feel like the overlap is there. The idea of his grift was that his plagiarism and misinformation caused people to believe he was the solution to a problem he made up. The people he’s harming are the people he was asking for support from.

The post is asking readers to specifically reject this mode of infantilizing abdication of responsibility for his audience's actions. Yes, they were also lied to, but they were not lied to in a vacuum. Whether it was through direct monetary support, propagating his misinformation into other venues without seeking verification, or attacking critics who had tried to point out his plagiarism and inaccuracies prior to the HBG video, a LOT of people either did harm on his behalf or enabled him to continue doing harm. That they did so while believing they themselves were doing a good thing does not, in fact, absolve them - indeed, a LOT of harm is done by people who believe they're doing good, or on behalf of people who others think are doing good. Yes, there are explanations for why they were taken in, fair enough, but at what point is it fair to expect people to examine their own culpability as grownups inhabiting grownup society

A friend and I were talking about the people saying, "At least I learned that all these other fantastic queer creators exist!" which is genuinely awesome. But also I think there's a tendency for some people to mostly consume ideas via synthesis. Setting plagiarism aside, when a creator who does this type of commentary cultivates a devoted audience, it's very easy for them to become kind of a vetting system. It's different from investigative journalism where the information is being woven into a coherent picture; it's more like a Cliff's Notes summary where James is the one who does all the heavy reading about this stuff, and I trust James, so if I listen to him talk about it, I get the gist of what I need to know. That actually works fine for stuff like the Internet Historian thing, where you're watching because you're sorta curious about what went down in the cave and just need to kill 30 minutes. It's real bad for learning about anything more serious as an ongoing approach.

I'd never watched his videos, and he immediately struck me as an insufferable bullshit artist, but I was watching a video about how he's an insufferable bullshit artist and I had not already made the decision to outsource my understanding of queer media to him. That sounds harsh, but I keep seeing people say that they watched because they were starved for that kind of commentary or how he got away with it because he presented himself as the only option, and while that is true and very bad of him, he was obviously getting his raw information from somewhere. When he did credit or quote directly, those were obviously existing sources that would also be of interest to people craving more material.

This is a "safe" mode of engagement with material in circles where there are really high social stakes for having a bad take: a few people are entrusted with obtaining new information and interpreting it for everyone else. And YouTube and Tiktok encourage that; going down an algorithmic rabbit hole of watching video after video on a topic is not doing independent research, but it can feel like it.

So I hope/suspect there are a lot of people who didn't realize the extent to which his whole setup was, "Please consider me the amalgamation of all other primary sources, which I read so you wouldn't have to" and are now going to go engage with stuff that has not been vetted by an Intermediary Guy.

appreciate my post being folded in here & it feels like a v natural expansion. i was definitely venting, more than anything, abt specific frustrating behaviour, rather than like. responding more broadly in a way that would lead me to covering any of these elements, & im glad that you did !

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