🥕 Mr. Drugs LXIX

@MrDrugs69

Just a carrot with chicken legs

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🥕 Mr. Drugs LXIX @MrDrugs697/29/2023, 10:46 PM

oh fuck off with this taxonomic puzzle

That is a motor scooter, which is not a motorcycle. It is, however, licensed like a motorcycle and probably requires a motorcycle license to operate, although I can't say for sure what country this is in or what their licensure laws are. In either case, taxonomically, not a motorcycle.

I can't really tell with the gray one in the bottom right, but it looks like the same style of seat/floorboard so probably the same type of vehicle (which also suggests that this photo was not taken in the US). Probably also not a motorcycle!

If you think a scooter is motorcycle, then almost every square contains one, otherwise I should click SKIP

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sage @wavebeem7/29/2023, 10:48 PM

yeah i think that... idk im always reading between the lines on these

it's not about a "gotcha" for taxonomy usually?

and i think that the correct answer is probably like the bottom left 3x3, minus the actual bottom left-most square...?

but jeez these things suck

🥕 Mr. Drugs LXIX @MrDrugs697/29/2023, 11:03 PM

Yeah, they're really about "do you give approximately the same answer as the first 20 humans we asked?" But at this point this type of task has been around so long that I'll bet human bias has grown to the point that humans don't even give the same types of answers to them that they gave 10 years ago.

Some weird issues with this one:

If I were a human capable of perfect taxonomy, I would of course click skip, but it seems obvious that a significant number of humans will click some squares here.
If I were a human incapable of discerning motorcycles from scooters, but nevertheless very focused on what squares a motorcycle appears in, it would actually be every single square except the two top-right squares. Pixels of the tire appear in the bottom-left, and there are pixels of the windshield in some of the marginal squares.
I was going to quibble about whether a storage container mounted on the back of a motorcycle was, in fact, a motorcycle, but actually that square contains some windshield too.

sage @wavebeem7/29/2023, 11:06 PM

hahah yeah... i feel like they have some doc somewhere that explains the square is "supposed" to contain at least 30% the object in question or it doesn't count, but i'd bet most people click squares with a very small percent of actual object in it routinely...

🥕 Mr. Drugs LXIX @MrDrugs697/29/2023, 11:11 PM

I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that it doesn't matter whether you click the marginal ones, because it'll be like 50/50 whether an actual human clicks it, so it doesn't contribute to the heatmap in any useful way.

This could vary a lot based on what feature of an object appears in the square, though. For a contrived example, if you had a picture where a person appears in several squares but in one square, only a few pixels of their eyes are visible, most people will click that one.

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