NireBryce

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NireBryce
@NireBryce

This is like that but in the best of ways.

this deposition by a lambda legal lawyer to exclude a transphobic expert witness with bad qualifications is just.

I have no eloquent way to describe it: it's 307 pages of someone with no qualifications leaning on his statistician credentials, being nailed to a cross over and over again until there's only metal left

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NireBryce
@NireBryce

when I was first going through this I remember something about someone involved admitting they'd been taken in by someone to be expert witnesses as a group, does anyone know where i would have found that who was involved in the reading this?

edit: nm, found it. Different guy same case.

transcript follows


9 Q. (By Mr. Tishyevich) Doctor,
1 0 you're familiar with an organization
1 1 called Alliance Defending Freedom, ADF;
1 2 right?
1 3 A. Yes.
1 4 Q. How are you familiar with the
1 5 ADF?
1 6 A. I was invited down there for a
1 7 conference on the subject of transgender.
1 8 I was an invited presenter, I should say.
1 9 They asked me to come and speak from a
2 0 plastic surgeon's perspective on how I
2 1 view the current state of transgender
2 2 medicine and surgery.

...

1 2 Q. I want to -- strike that.
1 3 One of the topics of discussion
1 4 at that meeting was about the need to
1 5 have expert witnesses for litigation;
1 6 right?
1 7 MR. KNEPPER: Objection, form,
1 8 scope.
1 9 A. I remember -- I remember a
2 0 fairly long discussion about the poverty
2 1 of people who are willing to testify
2 2 because of the risk that they take in
2 3 testifying. That was a -- that was a
Page 90
1 fairly long discussion. And the
2 difficulty that that -- that people have
3 in finding expert witnesses because of
4 the risks they place themselves in, in
5 testifying.
6 Q. And people at that meeting were
7 asked whether they would be willing to
8 participate as expert witnesses; right?
9 A. Yes.
1 0 Q. Before that meeting, you had
1 1 never testified as an expert witness?
1 2 A. Before this moment, I never
1 3 testified as an expert witness.


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Every time she says "and we'll talk about that more later" it's so intimidating and ominous I love it. Also the part where she shows her hand Columbo style how much research she's done like when she brings up a testimony he hadn't mentioned in his report and she's like "you sure spend a lot of your time on this" and he says "well, only eight minutes" and she says "actually it was twelve minutes, I've listened to it. Anyway—"

Oh so very satisfying

I was just gonna read a few pages into it and then skim over the rest, but then three hours later I realized I'd read the whole thing. She really did give the dude the Caine Mutiny treatment, and it was SO satisfying to read.

My favorite part is on page 189-191 where he basically tells her "just Google it" and she asks him why he didn't include his Google searches in his documents.