Nire Bryce

@NireBryce

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Nire Bryce @NireBryce9/20/2023, 2:07 PM

jae @jkap

jae @jkap9/20/2023, 1:42 PM

going to state an opinion that might get me yelled at. sorry in advance.

i kind of hate actually using firefox. i know that the effectively single-engine browser hegemony is bad. i do not like the stranglehold that google has on the internet. i also just straight up do not like using firefox. it has too many little things that frustrate me to no end and make the sort of things i use a web browser for a pain in the ass.

so the question is: is there actually a good chromium browser on windows? Chrome is out, Edge is out, Brave is completely fucking out, Vivaldi is weird, Chromium/Ungoogled Chromium aren't codesigned and so don't work with 1password, etc etc etc. what even is there? i hope that Arc on windows actually ends up working out because i've been using it on my mac for a while and fucking love it but until then what even are my options?

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Yseult @yseult9/20/2023, 1:45 PM

what's wrong with vivaldi exactly?

jae @jkap9/20/2023, 1:53 PM

too many of its UI decisions go completely against what i expect and desire; just felt weird to use. don't really know how to describe it

Jeran @Jeran9/20/2023, 1:58 PM

they make sense if you come from a long history of opera usage, but reflecting on it, yeah. it's weird! i happen to like weird, but workflow is workflow!

jae @jkap9/20/2023, 2:23 PM

yeah there are many things that Aren't For Me but aren't necessarily bad or poorly thought out and vivaldi is 100% one of those. not for me, but i'm glad it exists for the people that want that sort of thing

@lexi9/21/2023, 12:21 AM

100% agree with this. used vivaldi for a while now because chrome fucking sucks and vivaldi promised to continue mv3 and has a stance against the newer drm apis. and its Weird. but i like that about it. two vertical tab rows next to each other? what the fuck. but god damn do i like them. most people probably hate this browser, and absolutely understandable

(also it supports userchrome css styling which was one of the reasons i used firefox for a while and thank you so much vivaldi devs for letting us do this)

Jeran @Jeran9/21/2023, 12:56 AM

i also have no idea why vivaldi doesnt animate CSS crimes on cohost for me :shrug:

@lexi9/21/2023, 12:59 AM

you probably have reduced motion activated! instructions on how to (de)activate here: https://stackoverflow.com/a/59709067

Jeran @Jeran9/21/2023, 1:48 AM

that's what i thought for the longest time, but it seems to be off! OH MY GOD. i read that post a little closer and turns out it was MY OPERATING SYSTEM SETTINGS that was dictating this, not my BROWSER. IM SCREAMING INTERNALLY.

Thanks for this. I hope that your next sleep is perfectly restful with good dreams. you deserve good vibes for your good deeds.

Yseult @yseult9/24/2023, 1:53 AM

ok now i'm even more confused. vivaldi's UI is like, natively modular and configurable.

jae @jkap9/24/2023, 2:13 AM

embrace the mystery

Binary @binary9/20/2023, 1:47 PM

Really hoping windows-Arc pans out, using it on mac makes it SO hard to use any other browser.

Jammed @the-only-jam9/20/2023, 1:50 PM

This is the pain I've been experiencing, Google somehow has a strangle hold so much they're rotting from the inside and no one is bothering to even try to make a suitable replacement

Renpona @Renpona9/21/2023, 7:10 PM

it's because google, with a titanic advertising business and the search engine, is the only company that can make enough money off a browser to consistently fund the active development of a browser engine

browser development is incredibly rigorous and expensive, and very difficult to make money on. of course no one wants to get into it

Jammed @the-only-jam9/21/2023, 8:06 PM

I figured, still annoying as all hell tho, because I need those services to work on my industry and I feel completely stranded in it with no options

Bryan H.@MegaMasterX9/20/2023, 1:51 PM

Opera's a Chromium browser that's halfway decent. Not OperaGX (unless you love the Gamer™ Aesthetic™,) just Opera.

NeckSpike @neckspike9/20/2023, 2:11 PM

Vivaldi is a little weird (the default layout makes me feel like i'm looking at an Ubuntu desktop) but it's also highly customizable so you can change almost everything. I immediately went to settings>appearance and swapped "menu position" to horizontal and "menu icon style" to menu icon, this switches from the Vivaldi style to standard windows menus instead of being behind the vivaldi icon. Also switched the panel to the right side (I'd actually like the option to put it on top under the address bar but I only use it part time and haven't dug in to see if there's an extension for that).

Remi Erin Autor the remeranAuthor @remeranAuthor9/20/2023, 2:13 PM

I assume you're noooooot the sort of person who enjoys sitting down and customizing every damn aspect of your browser for hours, right? (Because I enjoy it, and boy do I ever HAVE to in order to use a browser.)

jae @jkap9/20/2023, 2:23 PM

unfortunately i am not

three space indent @nago-9/20/2023, 2:42 PM

I mean i write Foss for a living and I also kiiinda prefer chrome to Firefox but I'm curious as to what things about FF annoy you because I'm not sure I could name anything I explicitly dislike about it

Lacey 🐇@SenshellShark9/20/2023, 3:24 PM

Duck Duck Go has their browser in public beta now!

CinnaMimi @CinnaMimi9/20/2023, 5:45 PM

I find myself avoiding anything to do with chrome on principle. I switched to Firefox when my browser was being oddly slow. FF ran better and I got used to it more. I don't even customized it I just don't mind how FF default is. I think I'd sooner use edge over chrome at this point if I'm forced to leave FF myself ever.

@lexi9/21/2023, 12:24 AM

good answer: use an opera build from 2016 (the security vulns will probably fine)

bad answer: all browsers are bastards

♿︎｜Asriel // Azi｜Θ∆｜🏳️‍⚧️@MisutaaAsriel9/21/2023, 1:55 AM

You could try Microsoft Edge with a bunch of Management Policies applied via RegEdit to corral the nonsense. That's what I do on my PC.

Really wish Apple would bring Safari for Windows back from the dead.

(I use:

EdgeShoppingAssistantEnabled: 0
PersonalizationReportingEnabled: 0
RelatedMatchesCloudServiceEnabled: 0
ShowRecommendationsEnabled: 0
SpotlightExperiencesAndRecommendationsEnabled: 0
And so far it seems to be fine.

Note, Windows will possibly have a "MicrosoftEdge" key in the registry which looks similar to the registry keys mentioned by the document above. Do not use this, the keys must match what the document says.)

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