NireBryce

reality is the battlefield

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🐥 I am not embroiled in any legal battle
🐦 other than battles that are legal 🎮

I speak to the universe and it speaks back, in it's own way.

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'non-functional programmer'. 'far left'.

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my pet theory is basically that the whole capitalism vs socialism thing generalizes to basically everything in society, and every institution (big and small) gets to pick between being run by either wealth/capital/markets, or explicitly by social dynamics/politics.

iow you either get Monetization or you get Drama.

the latter might not be better but i think in a sense it's at least more honest that this is all socially constructed anyway

I disagree -- you get drama if you can't establish norms of how to behave for a given situation, such that people can get away with bending the social rules to play games of politics. and once something is a game of politics, the other 'side' must coalesce and rigidify, or the one making political moves will just win by fiat

this is, of course, the hard problem. But I don't think drama is inherent, it's something that's allowed to thrive, ESPECIALLY where drama is frowned upon overtly but still let happen, generally in an imbalanced way that requires the other side to now organize off-medium and further solidify

My thesis is that you will get that no matter what, because people are malicious and will actively go find where they can go make political moves no matter how many norms you establish. How you react to that then may cause drama or not and then independently can cause good community evolution or bad community evolution.

i used to think that, and then recently I've been stumbling into places that have enough of a barebones of structure that they largely prevent that -- but there's survivorship bias there because almost all of them have been built/grown/etc by people who have fought the previous fights and been burned by them.

edit: not that that absolves federation, just, a handful of useful counterexamples to the phenomenon

I'm pretty sure the political complexity of anything that involves humans is, like, O(n log n) on the number of humans involved.

I mean, people are going to disagree about things, and have conflict, and other people are going to use that conflict to gain power over others, and that's politics. One sees this on Twitter and Tumblr, of course, and I even see this developing here already, to some degree. It's high school cliques, on the information superhighway.