Pasta Legion

I think duviri was one of the best quests DE has added to warframe, both with the story and paradox's world. I put it up there with the new war, plus i had my own personal gripe about NWs ending this didn't have

At the same time, I am baffled that they made this a optional tutorial mission for new players. Its a fantastic quest, but full of endgame warframe plot/lore. I assume they complete the duviri quest then get chucked out at the beginning of the star chart? It feels like itd be extremely disjointed,

It makes me want to make a new account just to see.

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Toblo1 @Toblo19/2/2023, 3:52 AM

As I recall, your choice of opening made you go through the other intro once you were done. So completing Duviri then made you go through Vor's Prize and vice versa.

I can sorta see the throughline, Duviri functionally is a taste of power of what weapons and frames you can get, but yeah lore-wise it's Wumbo Spoilers for shit you won't get until Second Dream at the earliest (if anyone even connects the dots between the Drifter's flashbacks for each doll part and the lore about The Ten-Zero Incident).

Pasta Legion @OldSpaghettiFactory9/2/2023, 4:54 AM

Yeah, I dont know how I feel about the spoilers part, it effectively is revealing early the whole "you're a human person" part of second dream that the game hides for the first several hours.

when you put it that way, "tasting power" does make it sound really cool from a new player perspective, getting to try all these frames and weapons you don't have yet. Hell i'm hundreds of hours in and don't have most things unlocked.

So the whole time you're running through the star chart you have drifter off in their corner, in the paradox. That's interesting. I wonder if any new tenno that start with duviri are going to remember the "you can send it back to hell" echo for New War. that part did make me pog a little.

Beetle @beetlegooze9/16/2023, 3:46 PM

They removed it as an optional opening back in July. Every new player starts with the Vor's Prize questline, but Duviri Paradox is still available from the start as an optional quest. I get why they did it. One of the design philosophies of making it was to provide an easier way for new players to acquire things through the Circuit since getting new Warframes as a new player is on a spectrum of mildly annoying to downright impossible.

I think certain parts of it hit different being a long time player, but I think at this point we have to accept that after 8 years it's impressive how the fandom's rallied around keeping Operator things a secret, but it's become one of the less impressive/impactful spoilers as time has passed or, at the very least, keeping it a secret really puts a handicap on what you can tell people about the game to hook them, imo.