DeusExBrockina
@DeusExBrockina
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echosoul
@echosoul

this shit has really been burning me out on jungle lately. i will love it forever but seeing it coopted into this bullshit has been so depressing. seeing this shit get turned into buzzwords by people like me like... jungle is one of the most revolutionary art forms in music history.
if youve never engaged with the first wave of jungle i encourage you too, this documentary is a good place to start:

you should also know there is huge revival scene bringing back the og sounds. people and labels like Tim Reaper/futureRETRO, Green Bay Wax, Scientific Wax, Deep Jungle, Infrared (to name a few among many many others) have been holding it down for years now. i may be like autistic but searching this shit out is not hard. jungle old and new deserves your respect. and it makes me mad that i have to tell you all this. it is much more than "peshay studio set 1996" and far far more than any number of youtube ps1 jungle compilations. that music is good and great but treating it as the be-all-end-all turns this art form into a meme. and it deserves far more than that.


samanthaistyping
@samanthaistyping

if you don't know what Jordana did for jungle, or the price she paid for being Black and trans in the 90s, i got some history for you! (there's even an easter egg about this track in there~)

she's rejoined the seattle scene in the past few years and that alone brings me so much joy i cannot express it.


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in reply to @DeusExBrockina's post:

this is a little bit sad to me. like, nobody is going to give this person a gold star for policing the gates of admissible aesthetic, which is the only reason i can think of for saying that

but around the time you hear your 20th track sampling an echoing “hey-ey-ey…” Navi from Ocarina of Time voice, named something like “i lost myself,” ya start to wonder if this whole subgenre is maybe kind of artistically shallow.

this is kinda just how youtube mixes are ime, its like this in a lot of genres on there. the platform makes it hard to find the depth in things i think. except for the moments when its recommending me 300-view videos with the strangest stuff ive ever heard and then its cool but thats kinda rare

in reply to @echosoul's post:

I implore people to learn how to use Discogs for finding new music by finding artists' work (including aliases), seeing what else came out on any given label, and which other artists were on that label.

Also

That music is good and great but treating it as the be-all-end-all turns this art form into a meme. and it deserves far more than that.

This very neatly encapsulates why I hate the term "breakcore". I feel like it strips all of the history and validity away from jungle et al and makes it just, "amen sample crazy noises :-)"

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