RightRevJake

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pervocracy
@pervocracy

"trans rights" not as in "rights for the discrete group known as Trans People, who recently arrived from their home planet Transsexual* but should be given the opportunity to integrate into our culture"

but as in "everyone should have the right to transition, to whatever degree they want to exercise it"

sorry that this doesn't feel as politically safe as "they're only 0.1% of the population, let's Tolerate them!", but there is no way to actually make things okay while still preserving the Institution Of Gender

and its stunning ability to constrain and oppress cis people

*in the galaxy Transylvania

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pendell
@pendell

It still amazes me that Rocky Horror came out when it did and was so open and in your face about it and our culture is still like this. Like y'all SAW what destroying the institution of gender does, you WITNESSED Tim Curry in that movie and you STILL want to pretend this is better? smdh

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pendell
@pendell

one of my favorites parts is how the film itself doesn't seem to care about pointing out any message or specific brand of representation. All that matters is these are creatures to whom gender is not a limitation.

It almost makes one wonder if the climax of the film was a rebuke of those ideas? But I feel like it was a more complex statement about how yes these things can be liberating but Frank was defining his entire life by sex and that's just an unsustainable way to live, destroying gender is cool and epic but at some point you gotta be a whole person outside of that. And the sometimes-edited-out song "Superheroes" is a great bookend that shows how permanently changed Brad and Janet are after brushing up with these things they had never considered before, now that they've witnessed and experienced what life could be like they can never put those toys back in the toybox.

Or maybe I'm way overthinking it lol.

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pervocracy
@pervocracy

this is not very like me but I can't really analyze that movie at all in terms of characters and themes and all that

I've always experienced it as more of an event, something that doesn't have its full meaning without the context of a communal midnight screening. The movie itself is only one ingredient of the geek/queer/kinky/theater-kid (but i repeat myself) phenomenon that is Rocky Horror.

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bearington
@bearington

As someone who's friends with people who do a Rocky Horror Burlesque show (I was a groomsman at their wedding!) I think these ideas can coexist to be honest. We made it a mini event while I was in town and staying at their place, and they showed the movie to me for the first time and...

Both of these are very valid and good analysis.

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pendell
@pendell

This is something I believe as well! I only found the final "Rose Tints My World" scene compelling from an analytical perspective because it was a severe gear shift from all that came before and shocked me by revealing the emotional complexity it had under the surface that I didn't think would make it to the forefront in a movie like that - but it's still definitely a movie like that, you know?

And we can just pretend Shock Treatment didn't happen

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Moo
@Moo

I truly think that, as a cis person, my life would have been better given the option to go on hormone blockers/socially transition as a child. Not that I would have necessarily even taken the offer! But the fact that I felt that I had no other options than puberty>marriage>reproduction gave me a lot of totally unnecessary self-esteem and anger issues when I was young.
Rising seas lift all boats etc etc

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