shel
@shel

So ASL doesn't really have a written form, since it's a visual language rather than auditory and capturing motion on paper is, well, challenging. If you've ever seen those textbook diagrams of different signs you know how hard it can be to represent them clearly.

But when we do need to write out ASL sentences which follow ASL grammar, we use what's called "gloss" where we just write out approximate English direct translations in ASL grammar, in all-caps. I find ASL grammar to be incredibly intuitive, but it's still very much not English grammar.

Anyway, for class next week I need to bring and present a short story involving money signs. Now, I don't want to forget the story during class, or how to tell it, so I'm writing it out in gloss. And, just, man, it just comes across like I'm writing in a really fun eccentric posting style that's very delightful.

LAST-WEEK WALMART SELL WHAT? BIG fs4K TV HOW-MUCH? ONE-C-FIFTEEN DOLLAR! THAT CHEAP. THAT BIG TV. I TRY BUY BUT? SOLD-OUT (NOD, EXPRESS SAD)

I want you all to know that this is intuitive to me because this is basically how I think. This is basically how my sentences formulate in my head before I translate them into English grammar. I think the mandatory all-caps for gloss also just makes it come across as really excited which is also such a mood. Like what if I just had a blog where I wrote everything in ASL gloss all the time it would be such a vibe. It comes off so different than when it's actually signed.


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a thing that we find interesting about this glimpse of ASL grammar is that it hits the same notes in our head that "stack-based" programming languages do. Like you put the referents first and the verb last, but also you build a tree out of syntax recursively.

I don't know anything programming but I think what you're picking up on is the TOPIC-COMMENT structure and rhetorical questions being the way you form subordinate clauses.

The way you say "I went grocery shopping yesterday" is

YESTERDAY STORE I-GO WHY? FOOD BUY-BUY-BUY

yes! topic-comment structure is almost directly analogous to what we're talking about, and rhetorical questions being used to formulate subordinate clauses has another analogy to using predicate functions (ones that look at an item and give you a true or false reading) to act on sequences.

the excitedness of gloss goes well with the intensity of the facial expressions in sign languages. i don't know if there's an equivalent in other countries but deaf speakers of french sign language say hearing people have "visage mort" (dead face) which is quite terrible but also funny and true?