smokeronthebalcony
@smokeronthebalcony

LEAVE SPOTIFY you can literally just leave, it isn't hard to download music and it is so easy to listen to music on bandcamp or soundcloud or youtube (with ublock origin on firefox setting it up takes 5 minutes but after that you're good). it's not any harder than setting up a spotify account and you won't have to fucking beg for the privilege of skipping songs or fucking reading lyrics and you won't have to listen to ads. please i'm fucking begging you they are bleeding you dry you don't have to take this indecency. there are so many other podcast apps. there are so many other ways to make playlists. you can spend that 10 dollars a month on supporting small artists. i will personally help you with finding solutions to fill the spotify-shaped hole in your life if you need it but god i hate spotify so much.

if it really means that much to you then i'm sorry for yucking your yum, it's not the worst thing in the world i guess, but if you're just on the app because of inertia i implore you to explore other options


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i'd very much love to stop using spotify, but i'm not really sure how. i'm on a family plan so after splitting the subscription fee with the others, it isn't that much for instant access to a huge catalog of music anywhere* i am.

the main thing i use spotify for is the discover weekly playlist, and i don't know where to even start looking for alternatives.

i want to listen to music at work, but i don't want to pirate music to my work computer. i scrobble to last.fm, so just using youtube and bandcamp in the browser presents a problem. i currently use openscrobbler in these cases because it's rare enough, but using it for every single scrobble would be way too tedious. i'm definitely going to set up navidrome soon, but that limits me to my music library so i'd need something else as well.

for you and most people i would really, really,REALLY recommend youtube music and you can transfer your entire spotify playlist to youtube music via this website!:
https://www.tunemymusic.com/transfer/spotify-to-youtube-music

its youtube but specifically for music and is extremely similar to spotify

you can put downloaded songs on the website via drag and drop just like the pc app if you like that and it has its own version of discover weekly.

because its on youtube it often has a bigger library too so songs are less likely to just become unavailable and if they do you can always add a reupload to your playlist plus its all connected to your youtube channel so if you are using youtube and find a banger you can just add it to your youtube music playlist from youtube and youtube music removes the video when you use it so its not gonna take up any more data than spotify.

as for the issues youl run into il propose some solutions below

for the family plan idk cancel it as a family and find out if theres a family plan for youtube music premium or just all get ublock origin but then there would still be the issue of ads if you are using a phone

as for scrobbling last.fm maybe openscrobbler works on that as well but if not surely you can find a workaround for youtube music.

overall id really recomend you consider youtube music i think its a far better alternative for spotify with largely the same benefits

i really hoped this helps and you change over to yt music

ads aren't a problem, revanced has patches for youtube music, i think.

openscrobbler is manual, whereas last.fm has automatic scrobbling for spotify directly from the listening history. and i don't want to scrobble my entire youtube watching history, just the music. the music data also seems less clean on youtube, with things like "(official video)" in the titles, which would be a problem for automatic scrobbling.

youtube music does have a much larger library, but i'm not really looking to start using more google services. usually it's for privacy, but since i'm scrobbling everything i listen, that's not relevant here. it's more that knowing their reputation, they might shut it down like next week.

idk i think its pretty great.

attempt 2 then: soundcloud

they offer a lot for free and you can upgrade to their subscription to get all the songs

unlike youtube music its not as likely to just disappear and im sure you could use a website like the one i posted earlier to transfer your spotify playlist to soundcloud

sure songs can still just up and dissapear like in spotify but i still think its far better than spotify and has all the same perks in a better overall package

im also pretty sure it has last.fm compatibility so you can scrobble to your hearts content

idk if they have discover weekly but i get sent gmails roughly montly with new song recomendations and you can always use last.fm for that as thats the point of last.fm after all

let me know if soundcloud would raise any other issues but i really think soundcloud is the solution to all your above problems to kill spotify from your life once and for all! yipee! :)

i don't know if i'm using it wrong, but i'm not really finding whole albums on soundcloud. it's mostly just a couple of tracks from a few albums per artist.

the go+ subscription seems to be 9.99 USD a month, which is much more than i am currently paying for spotify.

aight i can try to find another alternative for you if you want but it looks like your pretty comfortable with spotify

its shit but if it works it works ig

i just hate its constant buffering issues and shit as well as its minuscule catalogue outside of pop music. anything slightly obscure has like a 50 percent chance of dissapearing suddenly without notice

Web Scrobbler works on YouTube and Bandcamp and has settings to only Scrobble videos marked as music. https://web-scrobbler.com/

It’s a more manual process but Bandcamp’s editorial section is really good for music discovery.

Hack for not wanting to pirate music at work: get a large cheap USB drive and put all your music on that. Open it in a scrobbling supported music player like MusicBee and you’re good to go. Obviously have to go through the initial process of downloading what you want to listen to but if you’ve got an hour or two to spare this is pretty painless. Recommend using MusicBrainz Picard to auto-tag and organize all the files.

I think I've done a tour of at least half of the streaming services: Rdio (rip), Google Music (rip), Youtube Music, Apple Music, Spotify.

My experience is that albums just disappear at random and every service except Spotify gaslights you about it by just removing them from your library rather than greying them out and being apologetic. They sell themselves as discovery engines but I've found I'm just listening to the same things anyway.

Eventually I got fed up with it and started buying on Bandcamp or second hand CDs off ebay, and at the rate I usually buy stuff it's working out cheaper than Spotify. For discovery I sometimes listen to the Bandcamp podcast but most I just stick on BBC Radio 6 and then buy an album if I liked a track enough, and that works pretty well for me.

I've been using Tidal for a while, it does the greyed out thing when songs go missing. But it seems like its usually some catalog reconsolidation where you just search for the thing and there it is again under some slightly different entity, so if anything it's kinda annoying that they don't just update your liked song to point to the new one.

I export my liked songs list to a big file in a git repo, just in case, so I'd have noticed things spontaneously disappearing

I use it cause it's very easy. Like, when meeting friends it's simple to start and join a jam, and contribute to it, without the headache of having one person responsible for the music, or committing your cellphone as the communal playlist manager and anyone wanting to hear anything specific having to use it... I think it's the main reason tbh. And R$21,90 /month isn't awful. I am completely open to suggestions