Ryyudo

That "I Fucked Up!" guy

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That Twitch dot tv dot com streamer. That once FGC commentator and memer with some bangers.

On the front cover of The Lara-Su Chronicles Beginnings by Ken Penders (top-right)

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Ryyudo
@Ryyudo

Australian English does not place a period after titles that would end with the same letter as it would be unabbreviated.

e.g.

Mister = "Mr." in U.S. English and "Mr" in Australian English.

Reverend = "Rev." in both U.S. and Australian English.


mojilove
@mojilove

The period *ahem* full stop in "Mr" is omitted in British English too—makes sense that it would carry over to Australian English.

I didn't know the rule in AmE was to specifically use this dot. I grew up with BrE and I just thought that anyone using "Mr." was just not aware of this obscure rule about final letters (plenty of people in the UK use "Mr." too).


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in reply to @Ryyudo's post:

it's true! american streams would always get my old tag wrong for this reason in my skullgirls playing days, and i also had to change my game publishing name from "CT Matthews" to "C.T. Matthews" because it turns out that omitting the periods in initials is much less common in the U.S. than in the UK too

in reply to @mojilove's post:

Without looking it up, I feel like it's about 50-50 that either "the dot was always supposed to represent elided letters but Americans decided it was a general abbreviation convention instead" or "someone in England in the 1700s decided that the dot should represent elided letters, but Americans weren't having any of that" is true.

this makes me want to look it up but I'm not sure where/if i could find a study on it. I have David Crystal's Making a Point to hand, which notes that the UK-based printer John Wilson wrote in 1844 that the dot is always used and "reputable usage" is opposed to the omission of the dot in Mr, Mrs, and so on. In 1880, Mark Twain wrote "per cent is now common, and such forms as Mr, Dr, and Rev are receiving the sanction of use by writers who cannot be accused of either ignorance or carelessness" so based on this second quote it seems like it was common and perhaps not necessarily wrong to omit the dot at one point in time within the U.S. Maybe it became seen as a Britishism sometime down the line