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SamKeeper
@SamKeeper

ok everything else aside, NaNoWriMo trying to enforce their code of conduct inside people's DMs is one of the funniest things I've ever seen a company do in response to criticism


amaranth-witch
@amaranth-witch

"You're in my in-box. There is no code of conduct for my in-box."

"This is not your space. This is my space."

These are the words of one whose opponent has lost the mandate of heaven.


IkomaTanomori
@IkomaTanomori

They are a corporation that stole the name of a popular trend and enclosed it as their trademark. I found out someone did this with Inktober as well and died inside. People who monetize community movements for their private enrichment have a name, "grifters." That's what these fucks are and always have been.


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in reply to @SamKeeper's post:

hahaha this is a tiny detail but I'm losing it at them thinking spellcheck was invented in 2003

Did they ask chatGPT when spellcheck was invented or something?? and is this some kid who thought "yeah that checks out" because 2003 sounded like a long time ago in computer years? 2003, 1961, what's the difference?

They were shooting for "technically correct but irrelevant fact that distracts from the moral argument" and landed on "claim that is wrong in multiple ways"

I actually skated over that part lol, pretty wild that they said something else so absurdly funny here that I completely missed "claims spellcheck is an AI from 2003"

in reply to @amaranth-witch's post:

I woke up this morning to this news and just. I've been doing NaNoWriMo for, like, 15 years, and discovering how badly run the operation has actually been, that a charity dedicated to helping children learn literacy didn't know how to handle basic problems like harassment or abusive actors? Was the NaNoWriMo contest thing the only thing they were actually good at? And now they're kind of ruining even that, too, by taking out the forums and meetups, the things that actually made NaNoWriMo worthwhile? NaNoWriMo was useful because it offered a community, a community that I assumed the charity was in charge of safeguarding. Historically, poor writers don't hire editors or seek out AI programs, they make friends in communities of like-minded creators. Now it'll be harder for them to make those friends.

I read that announcement and I said to myself, "This is a lonely, lonely update." NaNoWriMo's message here is grim. You aren't meant to seek out friends, you're meant to seek out an AI. Or pay someone.

in reply to @IkomaTanomori's post:

So, I don't think this is actually true? Or at least, it might be a bit misleading. The Office of Letters and Light was founded by Chris Baty, the guy who basically started the trend. The OLL later renamed itself to NaNoWriMo because nobody knew who the OLL was. It was and is a nonprofit organization, but is clearly not being run well and maybe never was.

That said, I'm pretty sure that NaNoWriMo has always been an arm of the organization. The organization exists to operate NaNoWriMo, and NaNoWriMo exists because of the organization. The nonprofit organization was founded because NaNoWriMo was becoming too popular to manage independently.

NaNoWriMo is, you are correct, the name of that organization, which has always run the competition known by that or the longer version of the name.

The competition, however, came out of a viral movement of one month novel writing, which was independently pursued by online groups, promoted by libraries, and generally had nothing to do with the office of letters and light or its "national" novel writing month, except in their being inspired by/a focus for that already existing movement.

I apologize for my imprecision. I was and am mad at them. Their being "a nonprofit" does not mean they aren't capturing a pre-existing movement and channeling it into money and other benefits for themselves. They did, technically, start the well known "national novel writing month," now shortened to NaNoWriMo. Despite actually being international from the beginning, they had a catchy name. However, it's not even a catchy name they invented. It was taken from a concept that was present in the zeitgeist, and they promoted their version of it to the point that the original movement coalesced pretty much only on the focus of their competition.

Kind of like how itch.io didn't invent game jams, it is just the host for a lot of them, but for something more niche (since fewer people want to speed write a novel than bang out a small practice game quickly).

I only have my memory to go on here. I can't give a solid timeline, but by the time in 2005 or 6 (depending on which website one checks) that the nonprofit was founded, the practice had been around for several years. I remember encountering the idea while I was in community college in 2001.

Having grabbed all the attention for themselves, I blame them for multiple problems, but the most relevant one here is: they gave themselves a megaphone, and used it to spout bullshit that uses disability like a human shield while actually harming the interests of actual disabled people. So not only failing to use their platform to spread a necessary truth, but spreading toxic filth instead.

People should go back to self mediated novel writing challenges. NaNoWriMo was a mistake.

Thank you for this clarification! I wasn't sure if it was a thing before Chris Baty's website took off.

I kind of disagree with the conclusion, but I'm reluctant to argue when I can tell we're both basically on the same side. NaNoWriMo has completely let its community down and it's infuriating.

I guess my angle is that I think most of the value of NaNoWriMo was the forum and write-in organization, not the challenge itself. But they've betrayed that, too! With the forums shutdown, the failure to address abusive actors attending writeins, and their very conviction that "poor/disabled writers" should turn to AI rather than writing partners for help, they've made it clear they do not value the community at all.

Like, I truly think a nonprofit organizing the challenge would be ideal if it wasn't being run so horribly. The forums had a lot to offer, and their annual scrubbing made them a much safer space for young writers than the rest of social media. I'd rather young writers talk about their work on a nonprofit messageboard than Twitter or Tumblr. The nonprofit's job was to run the website, maintain the forums, and offer resources to classrooms and libraries. Instead here we are.