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cathoderaydude
@cathoderaydude

i think a lot about how every fast food drive-thru in the country has been gaming the metrics for 10 years by asking every customer to pull forward so the order timer stops. corporate has to know it's going on, unless this is the most effective "snitches get stitches" campaign in history, which to be fair I can believe and respect

fuck metrics, if you want to know if people are working you can come out and fucking watch. if you don't trust your employees it's because you know you're not paying them enough and never any other reason


Seckswrecks
@Seckswrecks

The metrics gaming one of my supervisors was doing while I worked at UPS was giving the impression that our area was processing thousands more packages a night than it actually was.

This of course led to them assuming that was actually possible and attempting to actually cram that many packages through the system which of course led to lots and lots and lots of damages.

If you're ever wondering what happened to something you shipped just remember that the reason it's broken is some asshole who wears a tie to work decided to cut costs, not the poor son of a bitch in brown.


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in reply to @cathoderaydude's post:

it makes me think how wild it is that 90% of the time I look through the window in drive through there's a big monitor showing security camera feeds of cameras pointed at employees and nobody else.

i'm reminded of the time a mcdonald's in las vegas started handing out little hourglass egg timers to people in the drive-thru and if it ran out before you got your food you got a free item or discount or something. it was weird, intrusive, and quite honestly infuriating, so you better believe i set them down sideways

Might as well, those metrics are impossible to hit anyway. We used to have the Big Red Scary Timer when I was working fast food in the early 2010s and it started when the customer pulled up to the order box, not when they proceeded. I think our target time was 2 minutes, which the customer could easily eat up half of or more if they didn't already know exactly what they wanted. It's all just stupid bullshit rich people make you jump for to earn the crumbs. And of course they don't trust poor people.

You can't ever really be upset at a fast food place if they, fuck up your order or close early or ask you to pull up or are kinda rude at the window. They really don't get paid enough to give a fuck and, that's fair. I remember being told that a good raise after the first year was 15 cents, and it was really hard to care after that.

yeah this is why even if I'm upset about a fucked up order i don't get on anyone's case about it. at the end of the day, it's still food and i went there to eat so there's no reason to throw a fit at people who aren't paid enough to deal with that kind of stress

and that's also why people who treat fast food workers like garbage go immediately on the shit list

local friend of mine thinks I'm weird for not ever telling the employees that my order is wrong. but I'm not the kind of person who wants to risk somebody else's job just because they put red onions instead of green onions on my food.

on the list of things that can go wrong in a day, that ranks as "small potatoes."

I will sometimes let employees know that something went wrong, but that I don’t care and I don’t need anyone to fix it and I’m not registering a complaint, because the next customer that experiences the same problem might be a Karen or similar and they might raise an unholy stink

but usually I just let it go

This is the kind of thing where corporate technically knows, but corporate won't admit knowing, because if they acknowledge it they'd have to do something about it, and if they did something about it it'd show in their metrics that performance took a drop, and it'd impact bonuses.

So nothing will be done about it.

where i worked the timers were just pecking order enforcement and no one even bothered to pretend otherwise. The target number was impossible to reach because it was almost entirely out of our control, which meant that from the store manager on down no one was ever doing a good job and everyone was always on thin ice. Franchise HQ held the store manager responsible for it, who held the shift managers responsible for it, who got anxious about getting in trouble and yelled at us about it nonstop. I now assume any kind of pointless exercise in tracking numbers is specifically designed to create a chain of people who hate the people above them for yelling at them and the people below them for not moving faster when they're yelled at.

Goodhart's Law in action

Once you start using a measure as a target, it stops being good as a measure. People eventually start gaming them. Aiming for the number, instead of what it represents.

At the first store I worked at we'd just have someone hop into their car and drive through our empty drive-thru lane a bunch during the last half hour of peak, it really can't be overstated how less stressful it is working at a store that doesn't have a drive-thru.

While I'm on the subject I want to grumble about the time we were expected to get customers out of the line in under 45 seconds even if they ordered a breakfast wrap that took no less than two minutes and ten seconds to warm up in our single oven.