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Shadow Hog @ShadowHog4/20/2023, 7:13 AM

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Scroungin' 4 Catsup @Scroungin4Catsup4/17/2023, 9:16 PM

RE: "The N64 had a weak library" discourse

I feel that viral-outrage-generating opinions like "The N64 had a weak library" can be dismissed for three reasons:

it reveals the author's complete ignorance of Sturgeon's Law
the author is projecting themselves into a past where the N64 is one of the current consoles and they or their family has enough money and time to buy and play all of the games for it
(somewhat related to point 1) The good games on retro consoles can be emulated on your computer - at this point they are just "games"

The Sturgeon's Law point is most pertinent to me, it's like walking into an actual library and saying we should close it down because 99% of the books aren't considered absolute classics

Bonus reason 4:

Why are you still fighting 90s console wars you dork

#The Cohost Global Feed #retrogaming #retro games #video games #games #gaming

The Kinsie @Kinsie4/20/2023, 4:02 AM

It depends on what you're looking for

The PS1 was the place for massive, in-depth games like JRPGs and Metal Gear.
The N64 was the place for multiplayer games and, to an extent, FPSes.
The Saturn was the place for close-to-arcade-perfect ports.

While they all tended to blend and cross-over into each other's territory every now and then, they had their clear excelling points that the other platforms couldn't really touch them on for an assortment of reasons.

#retrogaming

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Wolf @Aware-Wolf4/18/2023, 2:57 AM

N64 didn't have as many 'must have' games as PS1 for me, but that still doesn't mean the games I did play on it weren't worth buying the system. And it goes without saying that N64 had adventure games on lockdown. They were much more immersive due to the consistent graphics and lack of loading screens.

I personally love hearing people talk about their experience with the PS1 and N64. Its such a unique time to look back on because of how many games were exclusive to each system. That era had such personality and now it's all homogenized to the point where you only need a PC and Switch to experience everything (though I will say that it's really convenient).

Scroungin' 4 Catsup @Scroungin4Catsup4/18/2023, 4:06 AM

Oh, it's cool to hear about peoples' experiences with the PS1 and N64. I just find those kind of ragebait opinions from people still fighting a console war from 20 years ago in the current day to be kind of grating. The cream from both has since risen to the top haha.

I was a Nintendo kid and I always thought he PS1 sounded like the coolest thing ever. I recall renting the N64 port of Resident Evil 2 a few times, RE2 was like the ultimate example of a "Playstation game" to me, moody and 'grown up' for lack of a better description. When I eventually received a PS2 that was the first game I went out and bought. Even in the modern day there's something about PS1 games that feel a little cutting edge.

If I was to do an off the cuff comparison of the two I would say that the N64's size limitations forced developers to reign in their games' art style and design while the PS1's larger disc size attracted a wider variety of developers to the system that had some very interesting, experimental, and downright artistic results.

Wolf @Aware-Wolf4/18/2023, 2:39 PM

Exactly. What is there to gain? I guess they're hoping to just to get some kind of engagement or reaction from people. The most they'll get out of me is an eyeroll as I keep scrolling past their tantrum.

I was on the PS1 side. I didn't get my own N64 until 2002 (played a ton of N64 games at my friend's house though). Ocarina of Time and Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness were the first games I went out and bought. I wasn't a big fan of the first CV64 game, but the updated game let's me play as a Werewolf in Drac's Castle? Sign me the fuck up! That game was a blast.

You definitely made me think of Vagrant Story with that last bit. I still have a hard time believing that game can run on a PS1.

Phil Salvador @shadsy4/20/2023, 5:50 AM

Yeah point #2 is really it. I remember hearing that argument back in the day, and the people making it were like... Next Generation magazine that got free copies of every game, and not a middle-class household that bought three or four games a year. There weren't nearly as many N64 games but SO many of them were bangers that it was hard to go wrong for the six years the system was on the market, instead of the 25 years people are spending with rom sets.

Scroungin' 4 Catsup @Scroungin4Catsup4/20/2023, 7:06 AM

It also fails to take into consideration that people of the past were capable of determining what would be worthwhile to them vs. what they thought was trash without always having to make a purchase, it wasn't some wild west free for all of quality. We could rent video games and play demos in 1998, too!