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SenshellShark
@SenshellShark

I've often felt disadvantaged as an artist, frequently needing reference material when working. It takes a great deal of practice to make some things stick well enough to just conjure it up in my imagination and draw it. Images are at best vague when I conjure them up in my mind's eye. I ultimately need to put line to paper in order to see how accurately I recall the proportions of things.

It had often impressed me that people can do these things without reference. But trying that for myself just doesn't work and I didn't understand why for a very long time. I didn't know people could actually see it so vividly before drawing and I felt bad for not being able to do that. I've been learning to be more patient with my aphantasia though once I realized that's what I had. And I wasn't the only artist with it. Now I take more time to thoroughly study in addition to using plenty of reference while working, which I highly recommend people do if they have difficulty drawing.

I am still skeptical when somebody says they only draw from their mind though. That feels like a rare thing to me, even amongst artists. Perhaps horses come from experience but what about bicycles? They're common, they're familiar, can you draw that without study or reference?


kiana
@kiana

Despite that, I can still smell the rubber of the tires, see the sunlight casting shadows from the spokes, feel the weird foam handlebars absorbing sweat from the exhilaration of learning how to not fall over, hear the gears turning and the wind rushing, remember the sensation of the pedals bruising my shins and my knees when my feet fell off while the wheels were spinning and the triumph of when the bike was finally centered over its center of balance.

I have the opposite of aphantasia, which is called hyperphantasia. For the majority of my life, I thought that everyone could mentally "see" the same way I could. My mind's eye is not just images, it's a full simulation of my senses and more, that I can manipulate at will. I always felt alienated when I was a child because I'd try communicating on the premise that other people could "see" the way I could, and it seemed like people (both other kids and adults alike) would seemingly give me the cold shoulder or dismiss me. I understand now that they weren't trying to, they simply just did not understand the way I was trying to communicate with them because it's drastically different from the way most people experience the world.

You'd think having a powerful mind's eye would help with art, but actually, I've met way more successful artists who have aphantasia than hyperphantasia. In a certain sense, it's more satisfying for a person with hyperphantasia to just be in their head all the time than it is to put things onto the paper because they simply can't ever compare to what we see. I only know one other artist with hyperphantasia, and they struggle with this like I do.

I do draw a lot to build my muscle memory and expand my visual library, but it's less because I find it fulfilling and more because it lets me draw out of my head better. Any time I need to draw something I've drawn before I can just conjure up all the memories of the times I've drawn that thing and reference them. But in terms of actually creating art, it's seldom that I come up with an idea that I think is worth communicating and sharing with others rather than just exploring it in my head, and it was only within the past few years that I started to feel like my art compared at all to what I see in my head.

If anyone is curious, someone on Reddit wrote this test which I'll put below (source) to check if you might have hyperphantasia. I've asked friends and family to try it, and was very surprised to learn none of them had the ability to do everything on the list, because I've always just done them effortlessly for fun ever since I was a little kid. Brains are strange!

Hyperphantasia Test

Visual - Picture an apple on a plate.

  1. What color is the apple?
  2. What variety is the apple? (Red Delicious, Granny Smith, Macintosh...)
  3. Which direction is the light coming from?
  4. Is there a specular reflection - ie, a shiny spot, as if light is being accurately reflected by the skin of the apple?
  5. Are there imperfections in the surface? Roughness, subtle variations in the color of the apple?
  6. Is there reflected illumination from the plate onto the apple?
  7. Can you easily zoom in on the apple, rotate it, etc? How faithful to an actual 3-D physical object is this in your mind's eye?

Audio - Imagine a song, one with vocals and instruments. Pick one you're familiar with.

  1. Does it have all the instruments?
  2. Are the vocals changing pitch, tone, etc?
  3. Are the vocals actual words, or just sort of gibberish fitting the role? (Try singing along to whatever is going through your head out loud if you're not sure)
  4. How sharp are the drums?
  5. Can you change the tempo?
  6. Can you make the singer sound like they huffed helium?
  7. Can you swap out instruments? Swap out lyrics wholesale?
  8. Can you change the key or mode of the song?

Touch/Proprioception - Imagine your hand and an object, any object, in front of you.

  1. Can you mentally reach out and touch it?
  2. Does the object feel like it should? Hard/soft, hot/cold, smooth/rough, etc...
  3. Could you feel your own imagined hand and arm? Were you aware of the physical movements in the same way that you know where your physical arm/hand/fingers are without looking?
  4. How heavy is the object you imagined? The right weight?
  5. Can you change that weight?
  6. Close your eyes (mentally or physically, whatever works) and concentrate on that imagined hand. Start with the thumb. Tap it to your palm. Do the same with your index finger, then your middle, ring, little finger. Any problems?
  7. Can you keep going? In other words, can you continue to 'tap fingers' with fingers you don't have - imagine that you had extra fingers - despite not having a real-life analogue to compare to?
  8. Can you go a step further, and imagine the feel of wholly alien things (bird wings, say) that will require entirely fictitious input?

Smell - Imagine a flower, preferably one with a strong smell

  1. Can you smell it at all?
  2. Does it smell strong enough, or just a faint whiff?
  3. Is the smell accurate - a rose smelling like a rose?
  4. Can you make it smell like something else - fresh cookies, say?
  5. Multiple smells at once? Rose, cookies, old stinky socks?

Taste - Seems to be pretty rare, but... imagine a few foods.

  1. Can you taste them?
  2. If you imagine something salty - like a pickle or potato chips - and add imaginary salt to it, does it taste saltier?
  3. Can you distinctly tell apart the taste of distinct items, like, say, two flavors of chips, or two kinds of candy bar, or two different wines?
  4. Kind of the acid test: if you imagine a few foods and what they would taste like together, can you go in your kitchen, get those foods, eat them together, and have them taste the same? That is, are your imagined tastes demonstrably the same as the real thing to a degree that it would be useful cooking?

I'm very curious to know how other artists experience their "mind's eye", and how it affects your work. And I don't just mean a visual mind's eye, I've heard of people with aphantasia describe a "sensing" mind's eye where they can "feel" but not "see" an object in their mind and I think that's so interesting!

P.S. The bike I drew is based on my memory of the one I learned how to ride on. I can even remember why I learned - it was for a commercial where I'd be an actor riding a bike, but not only did I not know how to ride one, I'd have to be pushed off the bike by another kid and I didn't want to do that. I never ended up going into acting but I did learn how to ride a bike!

(a follow-up post on the power of practice with references and an exercise you can do!)


SenshellShark
@SenshellShark

I hadn't fully realized how difficult it actually can be having such a powerful mind's eye as an artist. I guess that really goes to show how art is hard to do regardless. But also that our ability is still limited by our experience whether or not we can recall things more efficiently. And there is still that disconnect from seeing something in your mind, rotating it, bending it, manipulating it and then having to project that into a 2D plane.

The bike idea came from a discussion with a friend over some thread that went on about how nobody knows how to draw a bike from memory. That likely comes from people in the US who would probably have an easier time drawing a car than a bike, given they're so much more common (unfortunately). And what I find interesting about your attempt at it is everything that is included has to do with your experience and your point of view which is why the handlebar looks so correct along with the seat. And of course we know there are pedals down there and there has to be a chain to drive the wheel but what of all the bars? When we look down it's just that top bar where maybe we've attached a water bottle holder or something. But really this is enough to recognize that it's a bike, the viewer kinda just fills in the rest anyways. But also the details are really good, the treads are clear and the metal scoop above the wheel with the light and everything is so good. Textures and details I can often struggle with unless it's something I have a lot of experience with outside of art like fabrics.

I do recall smells quite vividly and can sometimes get a strong feeling when looking at a photo what I would have smelled if I was there taking the picture.

Brains are weird and perception is weird. Anyways! It's been a while since I drew a bike from memory so I figured I should have a go too despite my aphantasia. I haven't ridden in probably 8 years or so but I have drawn a bike at least once a couple years ago specifically as a challenge/demonstration of the benefit of using reference. Also I don't recall having studied horses specifically but I notice when others draw them and lately I do try to be more mindful when observing things I might be interested in drawing so I figured I'd do a mind horse too.

I tried to draw out the mechanism I recall my mountain bike having with a little lever device on the handlebar with a wire going down to the third gear wheel to change. Though as I type this I know remember the big gear actually had smaller gears with it and the chain would have some sort of guiding device though I don't recall where that would have been. But that was my attempt and after the advantage of seeing your attempts too. Perhaps we'll get closer to the truth with more people down the memory chain.

My horse looks like a bit of a unit haha. And it was with this one that I kept getting the urge to grab some reference as I have a habit of doing so whenever I feel properly stuck. I don't feel super bad about the head and neck but the legs are all wrong and I couldn't bring myself to add more detail unless I had references to go off of and improve the sketch. But there you go.

Thank you so much Kiana for sharing your perspective


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in reply to @kiana's post:

Thanks! I actually didn't know how to draw horses properly for the longest time despite "Wild West" being a common gesture drawing theme for animation, so I put in a bunch of effort to study them and I feel like it paid off :)

in reply to @kiana's post:

I have hyperphantasia too! Can confirm it does not help (makes me super lazy re: references & over confident,, which usually leads to disappointment lol…), I also suffer from maladaptive daydreaming lolol. It’s not quite photogenic, -stuff is fuzzy, and constantly refocusing, but I see color & Can rotate stuff, etc. You’re the first I’ve met who get the sensations & smells & stuff too! I usually can’t conjure smell or taste on command unless it’s really specific (cleaning supplies, brownies, weed are the easiest) but yeah.

Whaatt I did not know that hyperphantasia was a thing but it sounds exactly like how I experience the "mind's eye". Also your experiences, like comparing your art to what you see/feel in your mind, sound very similar to mine. Thank you for sharing, I think I have some research to do now haha.

in reply to @SenshellShark's post:

I love your absolute unit of a mind horse and mind bicycle! Yours is actually more accurate than mine, all of the construction makes perfect sense in a way I couldn't figure out without reference. I'm pretty sure my bike was also a mountain bike and it had a similar device to that plus a mileage counter on it? Something else interesting I notice is for the horse, you have the shape of the mane correct on the head whereas it took me a really long time and lots of iterations to figure out that area.

And what I find interesting about your attempt at it is everything that is included has to do with your experience and your point of view which is why the handlebar looks so correct along with the seat.

It's especially interesting to note that there were really handbrakes on both sides, but I only remembered one of them because I'm right-handed. I also pictured the handlebars the correct height (shorter) when I first put them on the page, but the more I thought about it the more confused I got about what was correct because I learned to ride a scooter around the same time and I had a bit of a data mixup there.

I spent a long time looking at tire treads up close because I was so weirded out by the tiny spiky things on the rubber. I STILL don't know what those tiny spiky things are: bike tire up close

But even though I got some of the finer details correct, I think I drew the tread direction backwards. Oops!!

bike tire treads

Admittedly, the cover on the back tire is a shape I stole from.. motorcycles maybe? I'm pretty sure my bike had a cover on the top of the back wheel but it was probably thinner and had reflective material on it more like this?

mountain bike with reflector

Thanks for the discussion and the drawings! It's fun hearing about what goes on internally for artists and I feel it's not discussed very often even though it's so core to what we do as artists. I feel like I understand better how peoples' differing experiences make everyone's art unique and interesting.

I sort of recall one of the main errors I made the last time I attempted to draw a bike which was how the steering wheel connected to the front wheel while there was also not a bar in the way of it turning which is certainly not something I was thinking about in my very first Mind Bike. I'm not sure where that sketch is really. I also recall the pedals being lower after seeing yours and remembering how tall my bike was given my long legs, then wouldn't be very far off the ground at the lowest point. I had also at a couple times in my life had to do some maintenance on my bike with the gears and such. But certainly the bars in the middle were most difficult to recall after so much time.

When it comes to the horse though the head probably came from me drawing dragons a few times and maybe also an anthro horse at some point? I kinda construct them similarly so that wasn't too new. The legs were and I couldn't recall how those really worked haha, turns out they're skinnier than I remember, at least for the most part. And I certainly mixed up the tail with something more like an elephant's. There are a lot of things that can be picked up from a simple glance at a reference image haha.