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A Writer/Artist lost in dreamland.
Most people that know me tend to call me "Shy", or "Mali"


natatorialremnants
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bazelgeuse-apologist
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yeah... this is a very good description of the fundamental issue.

it's why I've become extremely leery of any advice or like, Philosophy Of Doing Things that emphasizes doing things Consistently Every Day. I've been starting to think that not only was that philosophy very much envisioned by neurotypicals and not all that useful for folks with ADHD (et al), it's... pervasively poisonous? like, it feels almost like the dominant Way Of Thinking is that doing things Consistently Every Day is the best and only way to do things. and if you cannot do something Consistently Every Day, that's a moral issue. you have Failed, you are Lazy. all you need is to Build The Habit and then it takes care of itself! the hard part is starting and then it's all easy from there!

(when in reality it's like the opposite for me, lmao.)

I've been trying to move away from beating my head against that particular wall and instead focus on things like:

  • how can I structure the things I want to do so that even if I don't work on them Consistently Every Day, whenever I do work on them, I make meaningful and permanent progress, or at least reap some kind of tangible improvement even if temporary?
  • how do I make it easier for me to jump back into a thing after time away?
  • for the stuff that absolutely has A Deadline, like work stuff, how can I space out the Bursts Of Doing Things to meet that deadline, and how can I form more realistic predictions of the time it takes for me to finish something instead of assuming that I can somehow work at breakneck ADHD hyperfocus speed on command?
  • (and also how do I balance this against my manager's need for regular updates and my team's constant demands for my attention because that is unfortunately a thing lmao)
  • biggest thing: learning to not take neurotypical platitudes about how things Should be done at face value and realizing that a lot of these standards are in fact really arbitrary and unrealistic, and really really internalizing "anything worth doing is worth sometimes doing."

(on that last point, something really silly I've found is that I can't convince myself to brush my teeth and floss Every Day, but I CAN convince myself to brush my teeth or floss Most Of The Days... when I'm not busy beating myself down for failing to do both. so now some days I just floss and some days I just brush and my teeth are healthier! are they as healthy as they Could Have Been? maybe not, but it's been objectively more useful for me to put my energy towards an achievable improvement than an unrealistic ideal.)

(and on the first and second points, crochet is my favorite example of this - I cannot Crochet Every Day, but like, when I crochet a row, that row stays crocheted! I'm still one row closer to finishing even if I only do one every few weeks! amazing! and I've noticed that often I'm willing to wander back to a WIP, it's just that when my brain is fretting about Oh No Which Row Was I On and How Do I Do These Stitches and Oh No What If The Yarn I Need Is Discontinued, it becomes easier to escape by starting something new - so I try to offset that with things like saving the patterns and keeping VERY CLEAR AND HARD TO MISPLACE notes on where I left off, bookmarks to tutorials I've found useful, planning out and buying exactly as much yarn as I need for a project and only that...)

I once saw someone somewhere say "if a strategy worked for two weeks, that doesn't mean it didn't work - it meant it worked for two weeks" and I guess I've been trying to keep that in mind.


(I also have a canned rant here about systems in productivity tools that punish you for not being present Every Day but that's another post)


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in reply to @natatorialremnants's post:

This is a very exact description of the problem I have too, sans the specific scenarios of course. I've gone through life with other people telling me I'm just lazy or maybe I don't actually care about the things I keep procrastinating, but the problem is it's EVERYTHING. I don't attempt to start projects anymore if it's not something I can finish in one or two sittings because I WILL barely start some notes and then oops it's no longer consuming space inside my head anymore so I've entirely forgotten about it.

I'm guilty of the 'not being able to brush every day' too 😅When I was in school, I just completely stopped taking care of myself because of depression, and now that I realize how completely screwed up that was, and am trying to reverse it, it's like I can't stay on the habit for long. It becomes mentally painful to continue.

I've watched an ADHD video that described motivation as like a full bridge at first, but over time as you continue with the thing you lose more and more planks. Until eventually, you're stuck in the middle of the bridge. That definitely applies to me where motivation's concerned.

I have this trouble as well.

A few things that have helped me, and I hope helps others:

-External Cooperation: If available, getting someone to do or structure systems with you can be a life saver. A gym partner, someone to brush your teeth directly after every morning, someone to send mirror selfies to to prove you brushed your hair, whatever.

-Internal cooperation: More of a mindset. A lot of times I find myself struggling with the above issues of respect for a system/seeing the system as authoritative. It's become a lot easier when I treat systems primarily as things to iterate on, like tools I'm crafting. If I'm making an oath to myself (do things off the postits), I need to find the places in which there are reasonable exceptions and allow for them in the text; no text contract is going to be perfect. "I'll do things off the post-its except for in dire or emergent need, and I'll record on the post-its my justification and review it." Is one such iteration. The text will be longer but its not like anyone but you needs to read it. "For two weeks, after which I'll stop for three days and review." is another such iteration! etc. When systems fail (and they do!) I normally get relatively caught up and excited on what I could have done better and what I can do next time.

-Contract Knowledge: Touched on above, but my goal when making an oath to myself is that the oath should be Achievable, Binding, and Changeable. Achievable means they should be able to be completed and then you win. You get a reward maybe, but it ends regardless. You want this to happen. Binding means that, once you're in it, you ONLY get the exceptions to it you set up originally (except three days this month of my choosing, not when sick, not when guests are over, etc~) and if you mess that up you've LOST. You gotta record how you lost and then suffer it out and move to iteration phase, or scuttle and iterate immediately. Changeable means that the entire thing should be modular. You want bits and pieces you can move around and alter, levers that you can easily change. I find:
"I'll (do action) for (x time limit) every (triggering event) so long as (contextualizing information), unless (escape clause one). Additionally (overarching escape clause, exclusion days, what-to-do-if-you-fail)." makes a really good starting contract to work with. Just fill it in however.

Hope that helps someone :3