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ticky
@ticky

I know to some extent I'm shouting into the void here, but with cohost on the outs I would really encourage people to at least have another look at Mastodon.

It's the closest another social media has to being personally curated like cohost, and yes, I'm not actually the biggest fan, but it's the only one of the current generation of social media sites which isn't compromised from the start by corporate foundations/meddling.

Mastodon has a lot of flaws, of course (ask me about my attempts at contributing to it back in 2017), but I am not comfortable with using Threads or Bluesky given who runs them and tbqh I don't think anyone should be. Take the lessons you've learned from cohost and apply them to Mastodon and I do believe you'll have a better time there.


SomeEgrets
@SomeEgrets

i backed out of mastodon/fedi because im not sure i really want to go back to short form social media again, but the one thing i took away from it on my time there is that if you want a curated social space where you're mostly interacting with the people you've chosen to interact with, you can:

  • find the option to opt out of the local & global timelines and check it. i forget what it's called but im pretty sure it was there. maybe it was a glitchsoc thing? idk, sorry
  • set your default post privacy to "unlisted" or whatever it's called - this means your posts are still publicly visible, but won't be visible on local & global timelines

neither of these will stop people from interacting with you, but will prevent your posts from being broadcast to a big feed of people you don't know

i think the local timeline is probably fine on its own, if the default was to only post to it when you opt in by setting your post privacy to public. in most other cases it seems like it's just mashing posts from people who have no connection, no common ground, and very likely different acceptable social conventions together in a way that's going to cause fights

i think the global timeline is almost always going to cause fights for all the same reasons, but lacking the tenuous connection of even being on the same instance, but nobody asked me anyway

anyway, that's my $0.02 - reducing "discoverability" to a horde of internet strangers looking for a fight and building groups of people you've chosen to share space with is much more my speed. maybe some of this will be useful to other people who feel the same way?


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in reply to @ticky's post:

if you have an instance of your own you can join both. the idea is to insulate fediverse from cohost's culture, and vice versa, since i feel like otherwise people would join, make global posts, and immediately get in a federation war for posting in the same way we do here

sadly i haven't yet found a way to do that. unless there's some way to federate only with specific users. a friend had the idea of making all accounts seem locked to servers outside the island, while still federating, but that'd take a lot of work and it'd be work that needs to be done for each different piece of software we run.

maybe we could allow whole multi-user instances to federate with both as long as they follow the rules, but that seems like it could cause trouble down the road.

if i can tell people it's not connected to the fediverse, it brings in people who got hurt bad in the snouts.online snafu and others and swore off the fediverse, people who would otherwise be sighing and going back to Twitter private accounts and bluesky.

most friction-free way I can think of is to dual-account on an island instance that supports the Mastodon API so you can dual-account in a client that supports it. i wish there were an easier one.

Mastodon will let people see all of your posts with a clickthrough

Bluesky will flag some posts and require a login

If nothing else, this should be a fundamental reason for people to pick one over the other. I'm not really a fan of either but there's a clear winner between the two.

I’ve set up a Bluesky account because it seemed easier and lower risk than anything else, but I haven’t gotten any clarity about what specifically is wrong with it. I’ve heard some really bad omens, but I haven’t gotten a clear answer. Why shouldn’t I be there? What’s the issue I need to worry about? /genq

They let Nazis run free on the platform, it's very much grounded in the numbers toxicity that bred the worst of Twitter, and it was literally founded by the Twitter dude. It's also VC funded and a closed loop app, that will inevitably become an ad infested algorithm driven hellscape.

If you must use a Twitter-like, use something made by people, not something made by Jack Dorsey.