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One of the worst things you can do as an amateur philosophy student - or maybe one of the best things you can do as a philosophy student; I'm not sure - is bring later texts to bear on a given philosophical work. Judith Butler's Gender Trouble has ensured I will never be able to take seriously anything Freud has to say about gender ("Really, Mr. Freud? Psychology follows from gender, which itself follows from biology?"), and 1970s/1980s philosophy, with its emphasis on symbols and social codes as capable of producing the world in their own right, has me highlighting and interrogating a given passage of Marx's Capital every other page.

To provide an example, here's a passage I highlighted earlier tonight:

Otherwise with capital. The historical conditions of its existence are by no means given with the mere circulation of money and commodities. It can spring into life, only when the owner of the means of production and subsistence meets in the market with the free labourer selling his labour-power. And this one historical condition comprises a world’s history. Capital, therefore, announces from its first appearance a new epoch in the process of social production.

And the comment I appended to it:

The crux of this thesis must rest in the development of capitalism prior to the Colombian exchange - although even then, one could argue that historical developments like the Mongolian Invasions and Indian Ocean trade point toward a growing globalization that both precedes and makes possible capitalism, even in its embryonic forms (wouldn't have paper money and gunpowder without Song Dynasty China, would you?).


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"Marx won't shut the fuck up about twenty yards of linen making a coat" is something of a cliché in Marxist circles, but I'm surprised people seem to pay so little attention to him meticulously listing every profession required to make a watch in 17th century Europe.


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in reply to @Video-Game-King's post:

whether it's good or bad I think largely depends on whether your goal in studying philosophy is to pass exams and earn some sort of institutional recognition, or to actually learn something useful to the cause of human life and flourishing. There is essentially no overlap between these goals.

As someone who got a degree in Philosophy, bringing later texts to bear on earlier texts is actually very cool. Being able to understand a work in its original context is important, but all philosophy is in conversation with what came before. Being able to understand Camus in the light of Plato is important, but reading Plato in the light of Camus is also important in my opinion (two examples completely out of my ass). Bringing later texts to bear on earlier texts is how you generate new ideas, new conversations, new questions.

I dunno who gave you the impression that this is not a good thing to do in philosophy.

That may have been unconscious transferal of the "go into entertainment fresh, no spoilers or anything" attitude toward philosophical texts. Consciously, though, my concern was that reading later texts can make it difficult to appreciate whatever accomplishments made the earlier texts notable, since later thinkers are responding to whatever shortcomings existed in said texts. Freud gets this the worst: it's hard to get a sense of him pioneering a methodical study of psychology when authors like Butler and Deleuze & Guattari spend so much time pointing out all the implicit and arbitrary assumptions Freud makes that undermine his supposedly methodical approach.

In my program we didn't cover Freud much in my philosophy courses, mostly just in my psychology courses, where he was brought up to say, more or less, "Freud was was the first person to try asking questions and examining human behavior and cognition scientifically. So we recognize him as being important for that reason, but please don't try to apply his theories to anything because he was pretty much always wrong."

If you're having trouble putting a work like Freud into its original context, this article from IEP seems like a good place to get a top-down view of Freud's writing. It covers the core ideas of what Freud wrote about. It also has a section dealing with critical evaluation of Freud, but it tries to set Freud up on his own terms first before it really engages with that. It also has lots of references to other works for further reading. I wish I had more suggestions for sources but I didn't read a lot of Freud in college so I dunno what a good companion work for Freud looks like.

Typically, when dealing with a writer or a text where the future keeps creeping in, as it were, texts that are hard to contextualize to their own time, my advice is to go to secondary sources. People spend a lot of time doing the research of the context surrounding important authors and their works, because it's often information that you can't get from a text itself. Commentaries, companions, encyclopedia entries, annotated editions, even textbooks can be very useful in contextualizing a difficult text. (RE: textbooks, older editions go for very cheap, and the only reason to get a new edition is for a college course credit)

I hope some of this helps.