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NireBryce
@NireBryce

I need u to stop doing the whole "any testosterone is poison" meme/anxiety thing, and not even because it hurts trans people on a primarily testosterone endocrine stack (though this is a Pretty Good Reason too. but that's been litigated to death already)

especially when fully suppressed T makes physical therapy much much less effective, and T that gets you to the low average cis female range along with high enough estradiol and progesterone doesn't actually cause issues here?

the dirty secret is ovaries also produce testosterone, it's a precursor to other hormones.


gwenverbsnouns
@gwenverbsnouns

most of the "T is poison" talk I see comes from baby transes, and unfortunately that isn't likely to ever stop because every new trans cohort has to go through the same education all over again

if only this kind of stuff just came with the copy of the gay agenda u get when u come out

it isn't helped by the fact that trans and queer spaces tend to have a disproportionate percentage of active members who are newly out, because that's who needs the most community support, but then there's also less opportunity to learn from queer elders


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I also added creatine which seems to have helped my muscular endurance but importantly a lot of people reported a 10% passive strength boost and that was true for me, which made me able to get over the initial plateau from being pretty unmuscular and I've mostly stuck with it for the other effects.

I don't really trust the other suppliments but creatine has been pretty heavily studied because sports haven't banned it yet and everyone is looking for an edge, especially university sports teams.

but the T is what lets me like. not lose all my muscle progress if I'm not actively working on it, plus like, i ached a lot more the first few weeks because suddenly just existing was building adaptive muscle

ymmv but I'm so angry about a lot of it so far.

note: body hair follicles may activate that weren't if you started E in your early 20s so they didn't all already, but testing a month off T seemed to make them stop being as dark. but I shave everywhere anyway. (especially at the application site)

I've been on T six months now, and four weeks ago I started using a doorframe pullup bar pretty lazyily (3x10/d, all in the same session, maybe 5x a week if I remember) and am 2/3 of the way to a pull-up.

from like, going up 12 stairs hurting me before that

the other part was learning about delayed onset muscle soreness and that it 1. goes away by doing the thing and 2. if you start by doing the motion at 60% load a few days in advance for a few days in a row, you reduce the initial soreness from 100%.

I've still got problems but this is making it way easier to untangle the rest

👍

the other thing is that since it's low cis female average, it's performance enhancing compared to what we're used to but it's still not like, Easy, and still takes work but it's not a thing I'm constantly stressing about anymore.

and my spine muscles are so much better.

(counterintutively, if you've got muscle pain on the rear of your body, it's likely from it compensating for muscles in the front, and the reverse.)

hair facts from a trans electrologist:
vellus (light) hairs can be stimulated by androgens (like T) to progress to terminal hairs, and will sometimes revert back to vellus hairs if the androgens are reduced, if they haven't passed the point of no return. that point of no return varies person to person, but generally if a hair gets to be a full coarse terminal hair it won't go away

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