Turfster

@Turfster

he/him

Coder, pun perpetrator
Grumpiness elemental
Hyperbole abuser

Tools programmer
Writer-wannabe
Did translations once upon a time
I contain multitudes

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Turfster @Turfster6/25/2023, 2:47 PM

Juniper Bug @JuniperTheory

Juniper Bug @JuniperTheory6/25/2023, 2:44 PM

eternally funny to see people get mad that failbetter keeps adding pro-liberationist content to the game. Bro as it turns out unlike Alexis Kennedy thought actually there is no being a Based Centrist between "19th century british factory owner" and "guy who thinks maybe things could be better" actually one side is just Correct lol

I know it's not necessarily just his fault but he's so so easy to blame given what I've seen of his political opinions lol Mr "we can't punch Nazis that makes us just as bad as them waaaah". Choke and die asshole the game is better without you.

I will admit he gave us exactly one thing: naming the conservative shithead faction "the white" which means that I can call weird FL fascists White whenever I want and it's doubly funny

#fallen london

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AceEmpress @AceEmpress6/25/2023, 4:47 PM

Wait are people getting mad at the existence of A Dark Future? Possibly my favourite piece of FL content I've played, and one of the things I just desperately want to nerd to all my non-FL-playing friends about? That's an impressive level of mad.

@noise6/26/2023, 3:56 PM

I played FL a very long time ago, can you tell me what this 'A Dark Future' is about?

Juniper Bug @JuniperTheory6/26/2023, 4:14 PM

"actually, the liberation of the night is based and cool, and tearing down evil power structures is always worth it"

@noise6/26/2023, 4:25 PM

Good. I followed the Liberation of the Night to some extend; nice to see it is getting some recognition

Juniper Bug @JuniperTheory6/26/2023, 5:22 PM

it's very much in the category of "alexis kennedy (abusive piece of shit) wrote them as Scary Anarchist Evil Communism Bad, but now that actual intelligent people who know how politics work are making the game they're a lot more nuanced and interesting and in favor"

fingerless @fingerless6/26/2023, 12:22 PM

i'm really mad at the genre of steampunk and general Victorian Historic Fictional for basically shoving all the protestant psychosis and the Machines That Mangle Orphans out of view to focus on corsets and top hats.

You better believe that this post is resonating with me because I listened to a podcast discussing a book called The Five, which consists of biographys of Jack The Ripper's victims that argues that they were basically social murdered long before Jack the Ripper finished them off. highlights the rank misogyny of Victorian society, which is best expressed in the fact that they are all known as prostitutes despite 3 of the 5 having no evidence of being such, and the fourth having a single dubious solicitation charge.

@nottoph6/27/2023, 3:39 AM

Fallen London is sort of a strange beast in that, the spine of the whole ordeal is a zero-to-hero power and wealth accumulation narrative which ends up being a sort of libertarian power fantasy, pulling yourself to superhuman heights by the bootstraps via faultless petit-bourgeois artisan labor like some kind of victoriana John Galt. And for people like Alexis Kennedy that was probably part of the point lol, but even under different writers its a bizarre thing to have to work around, especially when you start trying to develop your revolutionary faction into something more coherent and sympathetic than "Scary, bad". Sorta hard to narratively reconcile the idea of a "revolutionary-aligned" player character with the fact that you are definitely getting the wall in a real worker's revolution.

Juniper Bug @JuniperTheory6/27/2023, 3:47 AM

it's part of why i love it, tbh. theres' nothing i lov e more then seeing people try to turn something flawed and weird into a truly beautiful thing. and fallen london has become something beautiful, and it's getting more and more and i love it for that

@nottoph6/27/2023, 4:09 AM

oh i do too, for sure! its just funny and interesting, the way these tropes and the logic of its narrative has shaped everything that comes after, the ways these weird contradictions are squared by the narrative. and fallen london being a massive more-than-a-decade-old ongoing collective project makes all these fascinating layers of strata visible, the differences between its early work and the later work that was made in response to it

someone better-read than me could probably make a fascinating breakdown of the ways that fallen london is a response to/deconstruction of the "steampunk" tropes present in popular media and, also, itself lol

(like seriously i just learned this thing has been ongoing since 2009?? like god what other online media project has even had the continuity to be able to track cultural shifts and respond to itself like fallen london has. besides homestuck, maybe?)

@SamKeeper6/27/2023, 5:28 AM

plenty of webcomics, but like, I wouldn't exactly say that e.g Girl Genius has tracked cultural shifts and responded to itself. more, uh, kept being exactly the same for two decades lol.

@nottoph6/27/2023, 6:44 AM

...i will be honest i deadass had no idea girl genius was still going lmao.

wow this

really does look exactly like it did in 2007 huh. i mean hey i guess if youve got a niche

i guess i tend to knee-jerk pessimistically assume that a lot of those older webcomics perished in the general collapse of ad-supported independent sites, but theres still a lot of em out there, yeah. though fallen london is probably the weirdest thing to have survived that shift that i know of? the whole structure of it feels like a refurbished artifact of an era of web media that, kind of does not exist now, even moreso than a webcomic like girl genius

Juniper Bug @JuniperTheory6/27/2023, 6:44 AM

Tbh fallen london is weird because of its history, where the game kinda... Died for a number of years and then came back

God I could go off about this dldnsjs

@nottoph6/27/2023, 6:53 AM

i think i've heard about a bit of that secondhand, but i dont know much, besides storynexus collapsing?

was both before and after my time (played for a fair bit in 2014-ish, then forgot about it for like 7 years)