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hootOS
@hootOS

like, is the only reason you've ever done anything just to make money? have you never made cool things that are not necessary for sustaining life, just because you could? i've offered premium broadcast production services as an audio producer, broadcast producer, graphic designer among other jobs all in one package and sure, i was paid to do it, but if money never existed? i still would have done it because it was fun and it made me feel cool doing it.

in fact the only reason i stopped doing it was because money exists, and i wasn't being paid nearly enough compared to the cost of living for the level of expertise i was bringing to the table. they themselves wished they could pay me more, but couldn't because money prevented them from doing so. if there were no concerns about money on either end, i would have continued to work with them and i could have used my expertise to bring a high-quality viewing experience to their viewers.

like, this is such a depressing way to view the world.


MisutaaAsriel
@MisutaaAsriel

Everyone sorta forgets theres a ton of people willing to create, who can't due to lack of funding.

Imagine how many people have had the know-how and the drive to create new things, but lack the funding? Hell, the pandemic itself highlighted this — We pulled a vaccine out of our ass in record time, not due to anything remarkably new in science, but because we gave scientists the funding to do so. How many diseases you think go untreated because it's "not profitable" to do so?

You think everyone at Apple is going to just... quit? When money is no object? When they are free to use all this technology to build and create their wildest dreams without having to worry about whether it will survive the "free market"? You think that your favorite mom-and-pop restaurant that was built with their life savings as their lifelong dream will shutter just because money is no longer in use? No. — Instead, all of the useless bureaucratic bullshit filler jobs will end up going. Sure, some major businesses might close down, as no one would be forced to work for them anymore, and they are so shit and unpleasant an environment that people will decide they're not needed. You might lose a few fast food joints, some useless shops here and there that are better filled by other establishments. But the world isn't going to just stop.

And sure, some jobs might need specialist care and mandated work, just to keep the world going around, like sanitation. — But I guarantee there are more freaks for sanitation where that is their thing than anyone might care to realize. And by and large, without money as an inhibitor, we will be able to build better systems which seek to automate more and more of the grunt work; the hard manual labor of these jobs, or to create new tools with which to ease the discomfort or difficulty of doing these messy jobs.

Even attempts to slow global warming have been inhibited by money. — Scrubbing emissions and going green is expensive and not many companies are incentivized to spend that money to do so. Even government level attempts to push us towards a greener future have been caught up by the "economic impacts". But if it wouldn't cost them a cent? When they could... just do it? It'd be a lot harder for them to say no.

We could cure more, clean more, care more, and create more, if we weren't reliant on "having the funding" to do so.

The world does not benefit from an artificially limited system


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in reply to @hootOS's post:

ugh. where is this from? if it's Twitter, tempted to give them a good laceration...

...I see it in the opposite way. the profit motive gets in the way of creating "better products" because one of the simplest ways to increase profit is cutting corners and starving workers and creators. the ideal profit-making enterprise produces nothing. ~Chara

I've said it before that money is just a socially accepted form of "IOU". You give them an IOU that is of equivalent value to the thing you want and then they take that IOU to someone else and use it for something of equivalent value that they want. You are distributing the bartering process.

Furthermore, money has no intrinsic value, it is assigned value. 1 USD today is not the same value as 1 USD 20 years ago. Same bill, different value.

This even extends into inflation. A lot of goods people perceive as "being expensive" or having "gone up in price" actually haven't budged at all. It's been their wages that have been decreasing, year over year. But this is masked by the fact that this decrease is due to the natural decrease in value of their local currency. So they get paid in the same number of units, but the value of those units is now less. Which means visually it looks like everything is stagnating and increasing, when in reality, it is their worth in this capitalist system that is decreasing. (Though some things are increasing, such as the costs of housing and healthcare, through arbitrary and artificial means.)

A wage is not an incentive to do work, it’s a baseline necessity for the work to be performed.
People work because they get something out of it that isn’t money, be that self satisfaction or working towards a greater personal goal that aligns with their values etc.