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in reply to @MOOMANiBE's post:
wait since when are there polls on here? Did you make this with crimes or have I somehow missed a feature?
Thinking of an MST3k where I think Crow described a hamburger as a "hamburger sandwich", and it was then I kinda realized we had, in our laziness, dropped the "sandwich" from "hamburger".
Now, one might consider MST3k to not be a valuable source of information, but it was how I remembered how many feet are in a mile, so I can't discount this source of information.
I'm far from a food expert or scientist so take this with an obscene helping of mayonnaise, but it feels to me like these are two different things and the distinction largely lies within the meat portion. If it's artificially round or square, that's a burger. If it's shaped like a chicken breast, it's a sandwich.
I think this is actually a regional thing! E.g. here in Australia KFC calls them "burgers" but based on what I can find of the US menu (for some reason they region block their website) the menu there calls them "sandwiches". I've similarly seen this distinction elsewhere, and I think I've only ever heard "chicken sandwich" used in North America.
The key is whether "burger" refers to the nature of the patty or the general form factor with the bun. Here in Australia it seems to be the latter - e.g. a bun like that with pulled pork in it gets called a "pulled pork burger" on menus. Whereas in the US they have "hamburger" being used to refer to beef mince e.g. "hamburger helper".
(idk where Canada sits on this divide though, sorry)
IMO a burger must be made with some kind of ground-protein patty, which must be cooked on a grill or griddle. So while a chicken burger can exist, these sandwiches built around deep-fried cutlets or oversize nuggets are not burgers.
Ooh good point, turkey burgers are absolutely a thing, though turkey meat seems to adapt to burger form better than chicken tbh
The one on the left looks like a chicken burger and the one on the right a chicken fillet burger.
i will forever swear by the japanese mcdonalds term "chicken filet-o"
yes that's what its called, it's great, the language logic required to get there makes me really happy.
I will always call them chicken burgers, I don't care what native English speakers think of me
I knew those were from A&W you filthy Canadian. Anyway obviously they're chicken burgers. All burgers are sandwiches but not all sandwiches are burgers and those are fully a burger in preparation and intent except the hammed burger is replaced with a chickened burger
i've been studying this question while overseas and i can safely say that this is a US vs UK thing (other countries shake out differently on other sides of it)
in the US the defining quality of burger-ness is the ground patty. you can have a turkey burger or a veggie burger or a burger on texas toast but it has to be a ground, coarse patty
in the UK the defining feature of burger-ness is the bun. putting something between two halves of a bun makes sonmmething a burger, even if it isn't ground meat
thank you for coming to my burger talk