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normally don't like weighing in on discourse but i keep seeing mentions of this on my feed so

why are there so many people that want to shut down the cohost global feed alskfja


i don't understand what's inherently wrong with it or why everyone's treating it like it's some sort of monster. i've wanted something along the lines of an officially supported global feed since like day 1 because i thought the point of social platforms was to like, be able to find people, and to me it seems like a perfectly fine and sensible opt-in way to do so.

the performance issues were only recently brought to light and it's already been resolved, and i can understand the potential issue with people tagging others' posts to unwillingly bring them to a greater audience, but afaik that's a function that literally doesn't occur within the search function (i.e. from what i remember testing, i don't think tagging someone else's post in a rechost shows up in search results for that tag. either way, as someone that's semi-regularly browsed the global feed, i don't think i've ever seen anyone use it in an abusive way).

as an aside it's kind of frustrating to not be able to find any thorough explanations for these sort of things. i don't mind disagreeing with people's reasoning and just living without certain functions, but as someone who would like a global feed / dms / etc. i've been kinda shocked by how often i'd scroll through every single comment and not find any explanation from anyone more than "this function is inherently bad and i don't like it, so it's a good thing they're not adding it" while people who are in support of it bring up genuine reasons without receiving much of a counterargument. sorry if i'm coming off angry, i'm mostly just a bit frustrated and would like an explanation more than anything.


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in reply to @Vecderg's post:

I think part of it is that the devs have had to make changes to minimize the problems that have taken away functionality from other parts of the site - IE, rechost tags don't show up in search because people were abusing them so the devs disabled it, so part of it is an implied trade-off between massive feeds and something like tag search

i can believe this, but i've seen 0 communication about what these functions are (i don't think i've seen anyone explicitly talk about how the rechost tag search works, because rechosted tags do show up in search results, just not from other people). there's a lot of unnamed consequences to this thing that a lot of people are arguing against but they don't really seem to be talking about what those consequences are, which is what confuses me.

I think this is what kicked off the discourse. Not really super clear or specific but might be clarifying if you've been seeing the replies without the source. I get the feeling that jae was mostly just expressing frustration at the subtle and not so subtle ramifications of these design decisions and it spiraled out of control from there (sorry if you have seen it already)

all good lol, but yes my post was directed 80% at this post + the replies, and 20% at other posts (e.g. the creator of the global feed who apparently meant it as a joke from the very beginning, but i don't really get the joke)

My understanding is that the existence of the tag has actually made it harder to discover things of interest, counterintuitively. People would just tag things with the global tag, instead of tags that were more tailored to the post itself. To make up a random example, someone might have a really good chocolate mousse recipe, but instead of tagging it with stuff like #chocolatemousse #cooking #food and ending up on the culinary side of cohost, it would be fed in to the grinder of the global feed, made less likely to reach people for the poster and less likely for the people that would want to see stuff about desserts to find it. The tagging system just works a lot better if everyone is doing it, and the global feed tag encourages poor tagging. That's at least how I understand the situation, hopefully that made some sense?

that makes a bit of sense on paper, but if you scroll through the global feed, the majority of them have several other tags because there's nothing really stopping you from doing that? the ones that don't are usually joke posts that don't seem to be meant to reach a very wide audience in the first place