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https://news.artnet.com/art-world/deviantart-dreamup-ai-generator-creators-rights-2208555

FAQ

Q: by bulk opting people out, you're ignoring artists' wishes about having their work uploaded into AI datasets!
A: they can also host their images somewhere else if they want to have their work turned into pink slime so bad.

Q: if web sites use these directives too broadly, AI model vendors will just ignore them!
A: yeah I know, this happened with the do not track flag too -- microsoft announced that IE would send it by default starting with IE 10, and then advertisers announced that There Is Absolutely No Way To Know What User Intent Is So We're Just Going To Ignore It.

this reflects better on microsoft than on ad vendors, and reveals the fact that fundamentally, the core purpose of these opt-outs is to do free PR work for the people who are doing unethical data-harvesting under the proviso that it doesn't affect their bottom line too bad.


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in reply to @vogon's post:

dA did a call/interview with RJ Palmer / arvalis and they just about buried themselves by not addressing his requests to shelf DreamUp until they have an ethical dataset and by basically mocking people for not settling with the shit they've come up with. They know no shame

I think one difference between Do Not Track and the new noai/noimageai is that DeviantArt's new Terms of Service explicitly prohibits users and third-parties from using content hosted on the site for ML training (unless the content creator consents).

Maybe you can try to claim that the tags don't reflect a creator's preference, but their presence very much reflects the preference of the site owner(s) hosting the content.

It's at least heartening to see img2dataset#218 has already been proposed.