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Vicas @Vicas8/25/2023, 3:23 AM

SereneDragon @SereneDragon

SereneDragon @SereneDragon8/25/2023, 3:22 AM

Now that I'm a US citizen, can I just say that, wow, the naturalisation ceremony is cult-y as fuck. I had to swear allegiance to a flag and sit through "inspirational" quotes about how America is so cool and good and you all came here because America is the best, most important place evar. I had to forswear all allegiance to any foreign country "so help me God" (but I didn't renounce my UK citizenship so lol) and I had to really stop myself from rolling my eyes constantly.

Ma'am, I'm here for the paperwork, please just give me my certificate that says I'm not a second class person in this country anymore and let me leave.

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Gay Eminem on 9/11 @DecayWTF8/25/2023, 3:24 AM

CONGRATULATIONS! The bullshit ceremony notwithstanding! I've been hemming and hawing about going for citizenship myself for a while so it's great to see!

SereneDragon @SereneDragon8/25/2023, 3:30 AM

Being a US citizen is going to make my life easier in general. I have more rights now and can't be deported anymore. I don't have to pay a lawyer far too much money for immigration stuff. It was worth doing. But you do have to sit through an awful lot of propaganda.

Gay Eminem on 9/11 @DecayWTF8/25/2023, 3:32 AM

Yeah, I've been on a green card for ~17 years now and

yeah

SereneDragon @SereneDragon8/25/2023, 3:37 AM

Wow that's a long time.

D W the Gutless @dwoboyle8/25/2023, 3:25 AM

they should add that crown of bullets from that one weird church.

frankie boyle's beanbag chair of death @micolithe8/25/2023, 3:25 AM

Don't worry American children have to do that throughout public school you're not alone

SereneDragon @SereneDragon8/25/2023, 3:32 AM

I know, my husband said he felt like he was back at school again. :/

ela @eladnarra8/25/2023, 12:13 PM

Yeah, it was wild. I wonder if I still have my tiny American flag somewhere...

But congrats on no longer being deportable! Always a nice feeling.

(Did they call out countries and have you stand when UK was called? They fucked up that part of the ceremony for me. I was born in one county, but I'm a citizen of the UK because that's where my parents are from. But since my green card only said where I was born, they called out that country instead, lol.)

SereneDragon @SereneDragon8/25/2023, 1:40 PM

Yep, they did that. It felt like a weird flex? Like, look how many people from this many other countries want to come to the US? That might be a little bit of a mean interpretation but it was preceded by making us sing the national anthem and then followed by the oath to give up any allegiance to foreign nations so lol

ela @eladnarra8/25/2023, 2:15 PM

Yeah... I wonder if the intention is more "hooray diversity, the US is a melting pot!" If so, the rest of the trappings really take away from that.

Taking the oath is so weird. I skipped the "so help me god" part, and my thought when I agreed to bear arms was "except thank goodness I'm too disabled to be drafted." Requesting a modified version seemed like too much effort, and risky.

Echo Cian @EchoCian8/25/2023, 2:33 PM

Of course they shove the military right in your face first thing, christ.

ela @eladnarra8/25/2023, 2:58 PM

Yeah, it actually starts even before naturalization - immigrant men between 18 and 25 have to sign up for selective service in case there's ever a draft.

SereneDragon @SereneDragon8/25/2023, 3:01 PM

The first waiting room TVs had "you can become a USA citizen by joining the military!!" on them for most of the 2 hours I was in that room. The other waiting room didn't but I think that's only cause the TVs were completely borked.

geoff (a ghost)@geoffaghost8/25/2023, 1:22 PM

Hooray! Also, I am sorry, I am so sorry: the flag-fuckery has always been such a wild thing to reflect on from school days.

MatchaZed @MatchaZed8/25/2023, 1:24 PM

I've heard the Canadian one is less culty but still has you swear allegiance to the King. It's funny that being born in a crown commonwealth you never have to swear allegiance but if you immigrate you absolutely have to. Double standard really, assuming that we all love the monarch so much.

SereneDragon @SereneDragon8/25/2023, 1:56 PM

The UK one is similar, apparently you can choose an oath which mentions God or an affirmation that doesn't but both are swearing allegiance to the King. I had to say I would "abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince", which isn't hard cause fuck the monarchy lol

MatchaZed @MatchaZed8/25/2023, 7:21 PM

Who besides weirdos even like the house of Windsor anyways?

Grint @GreenIntern8/25/2023, 2:27 PM

Congratulations! Sorry that you had to deal with pseudoreligious patriotic performatism!